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The Secret to Man's Aggression: in His Finger?
Health - Reuters ^ | Fri Mar 4, 2005 | Alison McCook

Posted on 03/05/2005 5:48:53 AM PST by Pharmboy

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - How long a man's second finger is relative to his fourth finger appears to predict whether he is prone to be physically aggressive toward others, according to a new study by researchers at the University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada.

But it's not finger length that causes aggression, study author Allison A. Bailey warned in an interview.

She explained that the important factor is the male hormone testosterone. Fetuses are exposed to various levels of this hormone in the womb, and research shows that men who were exposed to higher levels tend to have shorter second fingers, relative to their fourth fingers. "More testosterone, relatively longer ring finger," co-author Dr. Peter L. Hurd told Reuters Health.

Men with shorter second fingers were probably exposed to more testosterone in the womb, and this may cause them to be more prone to physical aggression later in life, Bailey explained. "More testosterone in the womb predicts more physical aggression in men," she told Reuters Health.

Alternatively, both testosterone exposure and finger length may be influenced by a "deeper third variable," Hurd noted. Regardless, the study shows that "events in the womb can have subtle effects on children's personality," Hurd added.

This is not the first study to link the ratio between a man's second and fourth fingers to his personality, Bailey noted. Previous reports have found that men with smaller ratios - meaning, their second finger is much smaller than their fourth - tend to do better in sports, and are perceived as more dominant and masculine by women.

However, other research has shown that men with smaller second-to-fourth finger ratios are at higher risk of autism and immune deficiency.

To investigate how finger ratios match up with physical aggression, Bailey and Hurd measured the finger ratios in 298 psychology students, and asked them to complete a questionnaire measuring aggression.

The questionnaire measured four types of aggression, Bailey noted: physical ("if someone hits me, I hit back"), anger ("I flare up quickly"), hostility ("I am often eaten up by jealousy"), and verbal ("I tell my friends when I disagree with them").

The researchers found that shorter second-to-fourth finger ratios predicted proneness to physical aggression, but not other types of aggression, and only in men, not in women.

In general, men had smaller finger ratios than women, the authors report in the journal Biological Psychology.

Bailey cautioned that these findings only link a shorter finger ratio to a tendency toward physical aggression, and do not show that men with shorter ratios are actually more aggressive. "Somebody might never have acted on anything," she said.

Moreover, behavior is influenced by many other factors, Bailey added. Finger ratios are "just one piece of the puzzle," she said.

SOURCE: Biological Psychology, March 2005.


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: aggression; development; finger; fingers; frankzappa; hormones; inutero; junkscience; male; malehormones; maleness; pointstoponder; testosterone
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1 posted on 03/05/2005 5:48:54 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy
The Secret to Man's Aggression: in His Finger?

You bet.


2 posted on 03/05/2005 5:51:23 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: Pharmboy

Junk survey. Junk science ====> Attack on males. Approved by the MSM and NOW.


3 posted on 03/05/2005 5:52:57 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Lazamataz
LOL!!

On the money, Laz...

4 posted on 03/05/2005 5:54:04 AM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Pharmboy
Are they talking about your middle and pinkie fingers.
5 posted on 03/05/2005 5:54:07 AM PST by Bostton1
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To: Pharmboy

Just don't pull it, please.


6 posted on 03/05/2005 5:54:35 AM PST by shezza
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To: Pharmboy

Jeez... and I was just starting to catch on to the size of the feet thing.


7 posted on 03/05/2005 5:55:31 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around.....)
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To: Diogenesis

Not so sure it's an attack on males. I think there have been many scientific studies correlating testosterone and aggression. If you look at the side effects of male hormone-like drugs you will see "aggression" as one.


8 posted on 03/05/2005 5:55:53 AM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Pharmboy

So if you 'hit back' or 'disagree' with friends, you're too agressive!


("if someone hits me, I hit back"),("I tell my friends when I disagree with them").



So, basically, the article is stating that men with shorter second fingers are pansies!





9 posted on 03/05/2005 5:56:04 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Pharmboy
What's that you say Allison?

You say if I give you the finger I'll get more testosterone?

Consider it done.

10 posted on 03/05/2005 5:56:24 AM PST by G.Mason ("If you are broken It is because you are brittle" ... K.Hepburn, The Lion In Winter)
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To: Bostton1

I think the second finger is ring finger and 4th is index ("Mr. Pointer").


11 posted on 03/05/2005 5:57:02 AM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Pharmboy
In a related study it was found that all scientists with second fingers larger than their thumbs could be bribed by grant money into reaching ridiculous conclusions on any subject. :-)
12 posted on 03/05/2005 5:57:46 AM PST by cgbg (Dead people voted for higher taxes.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Haven't you heard...size doesn't matter...:^)


13 posted on 03/05/2005 5:58:16 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Bostton1

They are speaking of the index finger and the ring finger (the index being shorter indicates more agression).


14 posted on 03/05/2005 6:01:29 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Bostton1
Perhaps this will help?


15 posted on 03/05/2005 6:01:38 AM PST by G.Mason ("If you are broken It is because you are brittle" ... K.Hepburn, The Lion In Winter)
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To: Bostton1
Are they talking about your middle and pinkie fingers.

Deep in the article they say the ring finger is the fourth. Therefore I guess they mean the index finger is the second.

16 posted on 03/05/2005 6:01:44 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Blackwell for Governor 2006: hated by the 'Rats, feared by the RINOs.)
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To: G.Mason

That's for musicians; the psychologists, it appears, do it differently. See #16.


17 posted on 03/05/2005 6:03:59 AM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Lurking2Long
"Haven't you heard...size doesn't matter...:^)"

Paging Lurking2Long ... paging Lurking2Long ... Report to the bridge sales office. ;)

18 posted on 03/05/2005 6:04:05 AM PST by G.Mason ("If you are broken It is because you are brittle" ... K.Hepburn, The Lion In Winter)
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To: Pharmboy

Second finger is your index finger (next to thumb) and 4th is ring finger. My 2nd is much smaller than the 4th and I have aggression problems, at times.


19 posted on 03/05/2005 6:05:18 AM PST by razzle
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To: Pharmboy

How is the author numbering the fingers? I thought "the second finger" she was talking about was the middle one, until she started saying the fourth one is the ring finger. In which case, her "second finger" would ordinarily be called the index finger. In which case she considers the thumb a finger.

How tough would it be to describe her finger assignment before launching into the rest of the story?

/grumble


20 posted on 03/05/2005 6:05:24 AM PST by John Jorsett (email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
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