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Police probe gap in school video
Asbury Park Press | 03/3/05 | Naomi Mueller

Posted on 03/03/2005 9:53:27 AM PST by sonrise57

Police probe gap in school video


Ten minutes of tape missing

Published in the Asbury Park Press 03/3/05

By NAOMI MUELLER
TOMS RIVER BUREAU

BRICK -- Police are investigating what else was on video footage that showed a Brick Township High School teacher screaming at his class and pulling the chair from underneath a student who refused to stand for the national anthem, according to Lt. Doug Kinney.

The nearly two-minute video was made by a student in Stuart Mantel's electronics class and was posted on several independent Web sites. It shows Mantel, a teacher in the school for the past two years, screaming at his students about their conduct both before and during "The Star-Spangled Banner."

Kinney said Wednesday that there were about 10 more minutes of footage that originally was posted on the Web and is no longer there. Kinney would not provide details, other than to say that the video showed some of the students acting unruly and antagonizing Mantel.

Police learned about the video several weeks ago, when the school resource officer, Detective Mark Byrne, heard about it from some students.

Shortly afterward, Kinney said, that portion of the video was removed from the Web.

Several students interviewed about the tape Wednesday said that the longer version of the video — which first appeared in December, shortly after the incident occurred — showed the students provoking Mantel. They also said that Mantel, who teaches wood working and electronics at the school, often screams at his students.

Although interest in the video has been widespread since it was first posted on the Web, students Wednesday said that since a newspaper story about the tape was published on Tuesday, interest in the incident has been renewed.

In addition to local newspapers, the incident has been discussed on several high-profile radio and television programs such as "Imus in the Morning" and "The O'Reilly Factor."

Yet no one other than Dan Rosa, who filed a petition this week to run in April's school board election, discussed the issue at Tuesday night's Board of Education meeting.

Rosa asked schools Superintendent of Schools Thomas Seidenberger whether he was planning on discussing the reason so many members of the news media attended the meeting. Seidenberger said no, because it involves a student and personnel matter.

After the meeting, Seidenberger discussed the incident with members of the media, saying he believes the board may need to consider enacting a policy banning the use of electronic recording devices in the district's schools.

Seidenberger also said he believed the incident drew attention away from many of the good things the district and its students do.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: brick; classroom; delinquents; education; newjersey; nj; publicschool; punks; schools; students; teacher; woodshop
Check other parts of this story at my blog.
1 posted on 03/03/2005 9:53:28 AM PST by sonrise57
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To: sonrise57
The nearly two-minute video was made by a student in Stuart Mantel's electronics class and was posted on several independent Web sites. It shows Mantel, a teacher in the school for the past two years, screaming at his students about their conduct both before and during "The Star-Spangled Banner."

Good on him. The little billy-bastards should show respect for our nation's anthem.

2 posted on 03/03/2005 9:56:55 AM PST by NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
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To: sonrise57

These children are being raised without respect for adults, country, and themselves. Much of this generation will be lost.


3 posted on 03/03/2005 9:59:22 AM PST by deepFR
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To: sonrise57

Saw a short clip on O'rielly. the teacher flips, but the kids are a bunch of hoodlums. Gotta be tough being a teacher.


4 posted on 03/03/2005 9:59:43 AM PST by Pondman88
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To: sonrise57
What amazed me was that several of the student's parents actually appeared on Television- TO CRITICIZE THE TEACHER!!!
You've really got to have some stones to do that.  I mean, I'd be so deeply embarassed that my off-spring behaved that way...
 
"Owl, doesn't your son go to that school?"
"Nope."
"Yes he does, is he in that class?"
"Nope."
"Sure looks like him."
"Its not."
"Sounds like him too, smarting off to the teacher, sitting there for the Star Spangled Banner."
"Did I mention my son is adopted?"
Owl_Eagle

"You know, I'm going to start thanking
the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in.  I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being"

-Hillary Clinton
(Yes, she really said that
Peggy Noonan
The Case Against Hillary Clinton, pg 55)

5 posted on 03/03/2005 10:00:43 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts. "Aww. not even a little?")
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To: sonrise57

I saw the video last night and that child deserved everything he got from the teacher, not that he got that much, a little bit of screaming, a chair pulled, etc....it was sickening to watch that kid disrespect his teacher and our anthem. I am waiting on the parents to sue the school and defend their son's "right" to be a jerk!


6 posted on 03/03/2005 10:03:11 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: sonrise57
I saw a picture of the kid who video'd it; he looks like he's 35. He looks like he should have graduated years ago!
7 posted on 03/03/2005 10:06:52 AM PST by zlala (I used to have a handle on life but it broke.)
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To: sonrise57

Nixon did it!.......


8 posted on 03/03/2005 10:07:06 AM PST by Red Badger (The South seceded over refusal to end slavery. Blue states want to secede for the same reason......)
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To: sonrise57
Didn't these kids cover a student in saran wrap the day before when a substitute was in? I heard they did that to get him riled up and had the fone cam ready for the reaction.
9 posted on 03/03/2005 10:18:21 AM PST by BallyBill (I'm a God fearing man and with many I stand....)
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To: sonrise57

My junior high shop teacher wouldn't have lasted 1 day in todays PC world.

This looks to be a set-up by the class to get him to snap.


11 posted on 03/03/2005 10:22:51 AM PST by digger48
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To: sonrise57

I saw the video last night and the teacher should be given a raise. I fear that he will be terminated for abuse or some other foolish liberal logic.


12 posted on 03/03/2005 10:24:47 AM PST by shadeaud (Liberals suffer from acute interior cornial craniorectoitis)
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To: sonrise57

Take your kids and grandkids out of the government indoctrination centers. Too many of the parents have been drinking the purple kool-aid for too long.


13 posted on 03/03/2005 10:56:48 AM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

If that was my boy I would be on any show that would have me just to embarras th sh!t out of my kid. He would never do anything like that again. The teacher would not have to give him a chair for a while due to my sons sore a$$. But to keep it real, my son would never do anything like that due to the way I brung him up.


14 posted on 03/03/2005 5:13:15 PM PST by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: hophead; All
BTW- the local news here reported that the missing tape from the site contained footage of said jack wipes destroying people's Christmas displays and all the perps were given a full tour of the local slam, sleeping privileges TBD.

Sometimes, a kick in the head is all that's needed to set someone right.
15 posted on 03/03/2005 5:28:08 PM PST by End Times Sentinel (Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts. "Aww. not even a little?")
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To: digger48
My junior high shop teacher wouldn't have lasted 1 day in todays PC world.

This looks to be a set-up by the class to get him to snap.

I wouldn't either. To be honest, there'd be bullet holes in the ceiling after I would try to calm them down. Fortunately, I don't have to teach chimpanzees.

16 posted on 03/03/2005 5:35:32 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: deepFR
These children are being raised without respect for adults, country, and themselves. Much of this generation will be lost.

You just said it all...

I recently had to do some work at what's supposed to be a pretty good highschool in a pretty good school district.

I was really shocked by the way some of these kids simply ignored the classes, and in return, they were ignored by the teachers. Sort of a "live and let live" policy. But worse was the way some of the kids talked back to the teachers. When I was a freshman in highschool back in 1975, there was a kid who did that sort of thing, and the teacher left the class, returning with one of the football coaches, who let the kid to his office and they had a "discussion with the board of education."

Of course, they can't have discussions of this type anymore.

Mark

17 posted on 03/03/2005 6:00:39 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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