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Federal Judge Orders 'Enemy Combatant' Jose Padilla Charged Or Released
The Carolina Channel.com ^ | February 28, 2005 | TheCarolinaChannel

Posted on 02/28/2005 3:20:44 PM PST by MisterRepublican

SPARTANBURG -- A federal judge in Spartanburg has ordered that an American citizen held as an enemy combatant in a Navy brig in Charleston should be charged with a crime or released.

U.S. District Judge Henry F. Floyd ruled Monday that the president of the United States does not have the authority to order Jose Padilla to be held indefinitely without being charged.

"If the law in its current state is found by the president to be insufficient to protect this country from terrorist plots, such as the one alleged here, then the president should prevail upon Congress to remedy the problem," he wrote.

In the ruling, Floyd said that three court cases that the government used to make its claim did not sufficiently apply to Padilla's case.

Floyd wrote that, in essence, "the detention of a United States citizen by the military is disallowed without explicit Congressional authorization."

Floyd wrote that because the government had not provided any proof that the president has the power to hold Padilla, he must reject the government's claim of authority.

"To do otherwise would not only offend the rule of law and violate this country’s constitutional tradition, but it would also be a betrayal of this nation’s commitment to the separation of powers that safeguards our democratic values and individual liberties," he wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecarolinachannel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: almuhajir; detainees; dirtybombplot; enemycombatant; gogallows; muhajir; ourfriendelectricity; padilla; ruling
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1 posted on 02/28/2005 3:20:44 PM PST by MisterRepublican
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To: MisterRepublican

Appeal.


2 posted on 02/28/2005 3:21:34 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: MisterRepublican

Sounds like another two-bit liberal judge trying to make a name for himself. I say ignore him.


3 posted on 02/28/2005 3:23:35 PM PST by Pablo64 ("Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion.")
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To: MisterRepublican
"If the law in its current state is found by the president to be insufficient to protect this country from terrorist plots, such as the one alleged here, then the president should prevail upon Congress to remedy the problem," he wrote.

This isn't some cocktail party chit chat Judge......Padilla was going to set off a dirty bomb.

I swear these damn people want to get us all killed.

4 posted on 02/28/2005 3:25:51 PM PST by Dog (FReepers-- - -- --- We are a battery of 80,000 bullsh*t-seeking missiles.)
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To: MisterRepublican

I can't say I am unhappy with this. We cannot get in the habit of declaring American citizens (scumbags or not) as illegal combattants while the court system is still functioning normally. If we were under martial law, OK I get that. But we are not, and the resolution passed by the Congress, while very near to, was not in fact an act of war. Try, convict and hang the sob.


5 posted on 02/28/2005 3:26:00 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Pablo64

No, this one was appointed by George W. Bush, unfortunately.

"U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., recommended Floyd for his new position, and President Bush nominated him in May to fill the vacancy left open when then-U.S. District Judge Dennis Shedd was promoted to the U.S. Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. The U.S. Senate unanimously confirmed Floyd on Sept. 22. Bush signed the confirmation shortly afterward."

http://www.wofford.edu/woffordInTheNews/content.asp?id=26


6 posted on 02/28/2005 3:28:07 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("It’s my belief that (insert conspiracy), originated with Karl Rove and the White House.")
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To: RKV

move him to gitmo and say bye-bye badman


7 posted on 02/28/2005 3:28:48 PM PST by italianquaker (CATHOLIC AND I VOTE BUSH=MANDATE)
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To: Dog
This isn't some cocktail party chit chat Judge......Padilla was going to set off a dirty bomb.

The judge isn't arguing with you. He's just telling the Feds to prosecute Padilla if the f#%&er has broken any laws.

8 posted on 02/28/2005 3:30:24 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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To: italianquaker

99% certain this guy is indeed a badman. We have laws and courts to deal with these guys. For better or worse he is an American citizen and was caught in the US (IIRC). That is how our system works.


9 posted on 02/28/2005 3:30:39 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: MisterRepublican
U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., recommended Floyd

Graham...the next McCain

10 posted on 02/28/2005 3:30:51 PM PST by Dog (FReepers-- - -- --- We are a battery of 80,000 bullsh*t-seeking missiles.)
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To: MisterRepublican

Cockroach gang banger was trained to make a dirty bomb maybe this nice Pinko judge can take him home to live in his house!


11 posted on 02/28/2005 3:31:19 PM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods.)
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To: MisterRepublican
We have not formally declared war.

Padilla is a US citizen.

The Judge is right .... but maybe for the wrong reason.

12 posted on 02/28/2005 3:31:36 PM PST by Yasotay
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To: RKV

I agree with you. It's bad enough when the government holds someone without filing any formal charges like this . . . but it stinks to high heaven when the person in question bears a striking resemblance to "John Doe #2" from the Oklahoma City bombing.


13 posted on 02/28/2005 3:32:18 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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To: Yasotay
Well we should just release Padilla.

How about we release him in your city.

14 posted on 02/28/2005 3:33:11 PM PST by Dog (FReepers-- - -- --- We are a battery of 80,000 bullsh*t-seeking missiles.)
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To: Dog
Graham...the next McCain

The present McCain clone.

15 posted on 02/28/2005 3:33:47 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Dog; sinkspur

People. This is a good thing. CHARGE Padilla for goodness sake! He's an American citizen, and if we allow American citizens to be held indefinitely without charge just by Presidential decree, what happens when Hillary is Prez?


16 posted on 02/28/2005 3:34:32 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: MisterRepublican

What's the problem with this? Supposedly, they have enough evidence to charge him. So, charge him.

It's a good thing that the government can't just hold U.S. citizens without charging them with a crime.

Remember, the GOP isn't always going to be in charge. Do we want the Democrats to be free to lock up whomever they want without charging them?


18 posted on 02/28/2005 3:36:34 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Lazamataz

You beat me!


19 posted on 02/28/2005 3:36:57 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: MisterRepublican

Can we release him in the middle of the Atlantic? Doesn't say we can't.


20 posted on 02/28/2005 3:37:02 PM PST by AmericanChef
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