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Philly columnist changes mind on Terri Schiavo (details lead him to side with her parents)
World Net Daily ^ | Feb. 26, 2005 | World Net Daily

Posted on 02/26/2005 5:18:05 AM PST by ViLaLuz

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To: ViLaLuz
The original article posted to FR yesterday -- THANKS, WND, for picking this up:

John Grogan | Second thoughts on Terri Schiavo -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1350930/posts?page=19

21 posted on 02/26/2005 6:16:54 AM PST by cyn (It feels like a Friday night.)
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To: All
Questions raised about Terri's collapse

Celebrated forensic pathologist says 1990 injuries should be investigated
Posted: October 26, 2003
By Sarah Foster

A world-renowned forensic pathologist with over 40 years experience as a medical examiner is challenging the official version of early events in the Terri-Schindler Schiavo case....

Interviewed on the Fox News Channel, Dr. Michael Baden, co-director of the Investigative Unit of New York State Police in Albany and former chief medical examiner for New York City, ruled out potassium imbalance and a heart attack as factors in Terri's mysterious collapse 13 years ago – which left her severely incapacitated and unable to speak – and pointed to head trauma and bone injuries as a more likely cause.

Baden explained to host Greta van Susteren it was unlikely for a woman of Terri's age at the time to have a potassium imbalance, unless she had certain types of diseases, which she didn't have.

"Too little potassium can cause the heart to stop beating properly and lead to lack of blood flow to the brain and death of brain cells by lack of oxygen, but that's very unusual, Greta, extremely unusual," he said.

That Terri's heart was healthy would rule out the likelihood of cardiac arrest, he said.

"The reason she's in the state she's in is because there was a period of time, maybe five minutes or eight minutes, when not enough oxygen was going to her brain," said Baden. "That can happen because the heart stops for 5 or 8 minutes, but she had a healthy heart, from what we can see Baden said he studied a bone scan made in March 1991 at a rehabilitation facility that describes her as having a head injury: "That's why she's there, that's why she's getting a bone scan."

"A head injury can cause, can lead to the vegetative state that Ms. Schiavo is in now," he continued, adding the scan showed evidence of other injuries, bone fractures.....


22 posted on 02/26/2005 6:31:05 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nuconvert
But since this guy writes for a living, he has an obligation to do research before he opens his mouth.

I agree. That is supposedly the standard for all of our "good journalists," isn't it? Last night, I was in a discussion about what had been "common knowledge" about this case, and the consensus is that the MSM's role in this case is frightening. The amount of real research by them so far doesn't appear very extensive.

"Brave and intrepid" journalists are willing to break laws in order to tar .50 caliber rifles; "brave and intrepid" journalists are willing to blindside American soldiers for talking points; unfortunately, no "brave and intrepid" journalists seem willing to set the record straight about Terri Schiavo. This guy at least has enough of a soul to speak his doubts, which is more than I can say for most of them.

23 posted on 02/26/2005 6:32:40 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: nicmarlo

If those fractures were accumulated over the years it'd still cause pain and incapitate her activities. Especially the broken ribs. I can't imagine anyone moving around with a broken vertebate unnoticed.


24 posted on 02/26/2005 6:37:40 AM PST by Nataku X (Food for Thought: http://web2.airmail.net/scsr/)
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To: Nataku X

that should read... if those fractures were hairline fractures accumulated over the years


25 posted on 02/26/2005 6:38:40 AM PST by Nataku X (Food for Thought: http://web2.airmail.net/scsr/)
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To: nicmarlo
"A head injury can cause, can lead to the vegetative state that Ms. Schiavo is in now," he continued, adding the scan showed evidence of other injuries, bone fractures.....

Many people deny she is in a vegetative state.

26 posted on 02/26/2005 6:41:08 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: ViLaLuz
What's happening is, as the actual feeding denial looms, people are beginning to focus on the facts and rethink this. Such as a simple one. Husband is essentially remarried with kids, why not let the girl's parents kerep her alive?

But it may be too late. The Courts are a generally unflinching dictatorship.

27 posted on 02/26/2005 6:49:08 AM PST by Williams
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To: nuconvert

Exactly. Another snap judgment made by an arrogant hack writer. Everything he cites in his "new" point of view has been on the record from the start. Why change his mind now? Because the careless schmuck just finally got around to looking past the headline and seeing what everyone else has been seeing for most of a year or more.


28 posted on 02/26/2005 6:51:04 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: jocon307

Hi, I do'nt know how to post but if anyone would like to donate money to Terris cause they can go to newsmax.com. We at freerepublic are a great bunch so lets help, Terri. thanks Faith


29 posted on 02/26/2005 7:09:59 AM PST by fred flinch
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To: The Other Harry

Whatever Greer may say about being "uncomfortable," is poppycock. Greer is obviously in deeply in love and [possibly] aroused [emotionaly] with the idear of literally being a God while in control of a human life - in this terrible case, literally.


30 posted on 02/26/2005 7:13:45 AM PST by freecopper01 (God will grant us the strength for the battle: Will we have the courage to use it?)
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To: seemoAR

What are you talking about??? It's been legal to kill children for decades. Um, I think the last name it was given was abortion. I read somewhere yesterday where some state is actually having to rewrite a law (or thinking about it) because a baby died outside the womb and still attached to the ambilical cord. I think the quesiton being posed was "is the baby self-sustaining or still part of the mother at that point?"!! Closest I've come to being ill... was thinking about what a liberal judge would do with that question... There are a lot of old people out there who had better stop worrying about Social Security and better start worrying about what is happening to this lady, because it WILL be them next... And like with the Nazis, look for the disabled to be targeted... Evil, Evil, Judge Greer...


31 posted on 02/26/2005 7:18:04 AM PST by freecopper01 (God will grant us the strength for the battle: Will we have the courage to use it?)
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To: buffyt
They don't threaten to kill them!

Yet. And if Terri's case is allowed to set a precedent, they and some of our elderly better watch out because they're next.

32 posted on 02/26/2005 7:18:56 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: NYer
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33 posted on 02/26/2005 7:24:30 AM PST by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: The Other Harry

If you decide to come before you do contact fight4terri@aol.com and she can fill you in on accomodations, etc.


34 posted on 02/26/2005 7:28:01 AM PST by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: verity
The (dis-)Honorable Court of the esteemed (death-decree) Judge Greer hath decreed that Terri Schiavo is the moral equivalent of a carrot, that she is a vegetable (of a non-endangered species), and therefore not afforded even the protections accorded to cattle. She ranks so far below a convicted serial killer in the human pecking order that not even Governor Jeb Bush and the Florida legislature can save her. For a Judge hath so decreed, and even God Almighty Himself bows before the omnipotent American judiocracy.
35 posted on 02/26/2005 7:29:21 AM PST by dufekin (Saddam Hussein: both a TERRORIST and a COMMUNIST, deposed thank God and the American soldier!)
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To: buffyt

"There are retarded children in public schools who are fastened into a wheelchair who respond about like Terry does. They don't threaten to kill them!"

Yes, and there are fully aware people who cannot eat food in a "normal" way. But as for your statement about killing these unfortunates, I think we need to add the word "Yet".


36 posted on 02/26/2005 7:31:51 AM PST by jocon307 (Vote George Washington for the #1 spot)
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To: ViLaLuz
Michael Schiavo has been living with his fiance Jodi Centonze since 1995 and has said he will marry her upon the death of his wife.

"Clearly, Schiavo's husband has moved on to a new life, and who can blame him? It's been 15 long years.

15 long unbearable years of faithfulness... NOT

Jodi wasn't nearly the first girl he dated since this happened either.
38 posted on 02/26/2005 7:50:36 AM PST by ljswisc
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To: sirchtruth

I have wondered for a long time why he does not just divorce Terri and legally have her parents respondible for her and clearly they want too. He then can go on with his life...does make me wonder if there is money there and if there is, that money should be used for her care...


39 posted on 02/26/2005 7:57:10 AM PST by Kimmers
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To: Kimmers
"I have wondered for a long time why he does not just divorce Terri and legally have her parents respondible for her and clearly they want too."

Because Michael Schiavo probably knows more than he admits, and Terri knows, too. He can't risk Terri becoming well enough to tell what really happened the night she collapsed.

40 posted on 02/26/2005 8:25:49 AM PST by ViLaLuz
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