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Ann Coulter not to be taken literally
BG News ^ | 2/24/05 | dj Johnson

Posted on 02/25/2005 11:39:12 AM PST by pissant

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To: Ladysmith
No, we're not going to do it that way. You find the full interviews and then we'll look at the context of THOSE interviews. I'm not going to play these little games of "what ifs".

Good grief. I cannot imagine a context where “let’s say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married” is an appropriate comment for a Christian. Of course, you are demanding an impossible standard (i.e., full interviews) in order to deal with an unpleasant reality.

By the way, I could cite a dozen similarly inappropriate comments. The evidence is rather overwhelming for an objective observer.

141 posted on 03/01/2005 5:20:02 PM PST by JoethePirate
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To: mudblood
I've read a few things by her and thought they were good. But did she actually say that "women shouldn't be allowed to vote"?

Yes, I heard her. The context was, "What amendment would you repeal?" She mentioned the 19th, women's suffrage. Her reasoning was, women have done a crummy job of selecting Presidents. She said (if I recall correctly) that none of the Democratic Presidents of the late 20th century (Carter, Clinton) would have been elected if women didn't have the right to vote. That is irrefutably true. Her unspoken point (which I inferred) was that she would rather give up the franchise to women than have Carter and Clinton as Presidents.

142 posted on 03/01/2005 5:20:30 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (God is offering you eternal life right now. Freep mail me if you want to know how to receive it.)
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To: evets

"Ann Coulter hates liberals with an undying passion". I don't like them either. I'm old enough to like Ann for what she writes. I enjoy the young guys wanting the pictures. She's a swell lady.


143 posted on 03/01/2005 5:21:42 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: pissant

Great article!!!! Love ya Ann. I have and always will find your honesty REFRESHING!


144 posted on 03/01/2005 5:26:27 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: pissant
His title is misleading, 'cause he's defending her.

No, I really don't think he is.

Ann Coulter hates liberals with an undying passion.

No, she hates evil with an undying passion.  Most liberals happen to be evil, so there's the connection, but let's be accurate, shall we?  This is a canard, a straw man that he can resurrect at some later date when he sticks the knife into Ann... after all, he once defended her.

Because of her hard-to-grasp belief that women shouldn't vote

Excuse me?  I think that statement needs some documentation and context before I'm going to take it at face value.  This strikes me as a classic Saul Alinsky character assassination campaign, straight out of "Rules For Radicals."  This author doesn't even change the basic example Alinsky has put forward in his instruction manual for leftist terrorist supporters!

That "comment," like so many other liberal "arguments," is nothing more than trash-talking about someone he doesn't like.

Oooo.  Oooo.  The writer is defending Ann, you MUST BELIEVE HIM - HE HAS TOLD YOU THAT YOU MUST - OBEY HIM!!!!!  He is "trash talking" about Ann, but he couches it all as a "defense" so no one can challenge any of his assertions of "fact."

Coulter, contrary to popular speakers like Michael Moore and Al Franken

Popular?  With whom?

I think this is a liberal spewing pap to a liberal audience to establish his credibility for later attack.  This article does NOT stand alone.  This is only part one.  Trust me.

But then, I'm a very cynical fellow. I am always pleased when I'm proved wrong on these type of dark predictions. Unfortunately that seldom happens.

145 posted on 03/01/2005 5:49:18 PM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: JoethePirate
Ok, I'll give you a break. Find out what the discussion was about and the direction of the conversation so we can frame those quotes in their proper context.

That's what all this boils down to, Joe. Context. It's not any different than someone taking one verse out of the Bible and twisting it to mean something than it does. I'm sure you know as well as I do that's someone who claims to be an authority of the Bible can manipulate others who aren't as strong in their knowledge of the Word with one verse taken out of context.

As long as people take these one-liners on Ann's out of context, they can portray her as negatively as they desire to others who don't her or her work very well.

146 posted on 03/01/2005 5:51:55 PM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: MarkeyD

Heretic!


147 posted on 03/01/2005 5:55:40 PM PST by Axenolith (This space for rent...)
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To: MarkeyD

Heretic!


148 posted on 03/01/2005 5:55:52 PM PST by Axenolith (This space for rent...)
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To: ArmyTeach
As ArGee said, she often throws a point out there just to needle people into reacting.

I for one don't appreciate being "needled" rather than spoken to like an adult. She's chosen her niche which, IMHO, is to promote herself. She does a nice job of that, I'll admit.

149 posted on 03/01/2005 10:25:46 PM PST by XJarhead
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To: JoethePirate
Did you extend that presumption to Clinton?

Yes.

If he were a friend of mine I would discuss his behaviors and whether they are what Christ wants of him. I would discuss whether they evidence a desire on his part to become ever more Christlike. But it is between Christ and Clinton, through the medium of the Holy Spirit, whether he is to be judged Christian or not.

I would draw the line at someone who professed to be both a Christian and a non-Christian. Otherwise I am not competent to judge.

Shalom.

150 posted on 03/02/2005 5:39:17 AM PST by ArGee (Why do we let queers tell us what's normal?)
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To: JoethePirate
For the record, I seriously doubt that Bill or Hillary are Christians.

For the record, I don't spend my time judging whether other people are Christians. I have better things to do - like trying to improve my own witness.

As I indicated before, it's one thing to question certain behaviors as glorifying Christ. It's quite another to hang a man on his sins. Christ made it clear that it's the state of the heart, not the execution, that matters.

Shalom.

151 posted on 03/02/2005 5:41:04 AM PST by ArGee (Why do we let queers tell us what's normal?)
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To: JoethePirate; Ladysmith
Good grief. I cannot imagine a context where "let’s say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married"

OK, I didn't hear what Ann said, but I can imagine two contexts.

1) "Let's say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married. But what we have here is a culture that says 'Marriage doesn't matter, committment doesn't matter, faithfulness doesn't matter, only sexual fulfillment matters.' That's simply not true. The sexual relationships impact all the other relationships you have in your life and you must be held to account." I could even make a statement like, "I'm not really advocating premarital sex, but I am saying there's a huge difference between fornication and infidelity."

2) "Then there's this entire entertainment industry that wants us all to say, 'Let's say ...'"

Shalom.

152 posted on 03/02/2005 5:46:17 AM PST by ArGee (Why do we let queers tell us what's normal?)
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To: ArGee
For the record, I don't spend my time judging whether other people are Christians. I have better things to do - like trying to improve my own witness.

Good point

153 posted on 03/02/2005 5:48:13 AM PST by JoethePirate
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To: XJarhead; ArmyTeach
I for one don't appreciate being "needled" rather than spoken to like an adult. She's chosen her niche which, IMHO, is to promote herself. She does a nice job of that, I'll admit.

Since we're talking about my statement I feel justified in jumping in. I don't think XJarhead is her target when she's provoking.

When I'm talking to the anti-life crowd I will suggest a law for a "male abortion." It would give men the right to file a statement of non-paternity at any time when it would be legal for the woman to have an abortion. It makes the child legally aborted as far as he is concerned. I would NEVER want such a law, but it sure causes the pro-death crowd to think. Usually it makes the pro-life crowd laugh because they see the point so quickly. But if it offended one I would quietly say, "You aren't the one I was aiming that barb at." (And grammar be da**ed.)

Shalom.

154 posted on 03/02/2005 5:50:30 AM PST by ArGee (Why do we let queers tell us what's normal?)
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To: ArGee
I would NEVER want such a law, but it sure causes the pro-death crowd to think. Usually it makes the pro-life crowd laugh because they see the point so quickly.

You really think it causes the pro-death crowd to think? I don't. It may make them angry, but in terms of taking it seriously, they'll ignore it. Its so over the top on its face that they don't need to addess the substantive point. And then they'll use the the fact that she makes over the top statements like that to dismiss anything she says, even it isn't so extreme.

You're right about it making the pro-life crowd laugh. And that's my point. She's basically an entertainer.

155 posted on 03/02/2005 7:28:33 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: XJarhead
You really think it causes the pro-death crowd to think?

Actually, I've seen it in action. It isn't a hypothetical.

And it ties them in knots. One actually said, "I think he's right." Unfortunately, he was agreeing there was need for such a law.

Shalom.

156 posted on 03/02/2005 10:45:52 AM PST by ArGee (Why do we let queers tell us what's normal?)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Thanks for posting that quote. I think she was being dramatic. I can't imagine her ever giving up her right to vote. I for one think everyone has a right to make a fool out of themselves, and I think everyone has a responsibility to live with their foolish mistakes. Thanks again!


157 posted on 03/03/2005 3:00:08 AM PST by mudblood
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