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NBC Show Blasphemes Communion Host
NewsMax ^ | 2/24/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 02/24/2005 7:06:21 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: Jorge
Jorge said: "Not all Christians believe the Communion wafer is the actual body of Christ as Catholics do, so I'm not sure all would consider this blasphemy..."

Jorge, that was your statement and I asked you to please give an example. If you don't have an example, that's okay too. :)

61 posted on 02/24/2005 7:46:01 PM PST by bd476
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To: floridavoter2
when a majority of catholics do vote pro abortion thus democrat i find it hard to listen to anyone splitting hairs over a sitcom that didn't come close blaspheming anyone.

http://www.catholicvote.net/issues/additional_resources/2004democrats.htm

the point i was TRYING to make is, catholics would do better to get rid of ted kennedy then bitch about some harmless sitcom.
62 posted on 02/24/2005 7:46:16 PM PST by postaldave (ACLU = Anti-Christian, Liberal, and Un-American.)
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To: SerpentDove

Islam believes that any depiction of Muhammed (pictures, statues, etc.) is a form of blasphemy; to the best of my knowledge, the rest of the world has always respected this. NBC, CBS, ABC, etc. go out of their way to placate the religion that promotes the death and destruction of America, I think they should at least show the same level of respect for the religious traditions of much of America.


63 posted on 02/24/2005 7:47:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Now if a mosque was disparaged by NBC you can bet there would be an instant apology and another apology and another apology.


64 posted on 02/24/2005 7:47:13 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: Poser
It was a farce about two people trying to be respectful

Flushing Christ down the toilet or making the viewer believe this is respectful?

65 posted on 02/24/2005 7:47:23 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: RosieCotton
Whether you believe in Catholic doctrine or not, if you understand how it is we see it, you can see why this is appallingly horrid.

Of course. Flushing a Communion wafer down a toilet is clearly an insult to the Christian faith in general.

However, I can see how refusing Communion to a Protestant Christian by Catholics was also insulting, because it happened to me once, and I have never gone back to a Catholic Church since.

66 posted on 02/24/2005 7:48:36 PM PST by Jorge
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To: wagglebee

Christians are not a protected class. To them, Christians are the enemy.

I am not the paranoid type, but I suspect we are in for more persecution than we have seen up till now.


67 posted on 02/24/2005 7:49:33 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: SerpentDove

Absolutely friends. I think the phrase "also believe the host represents..." was what threw me. Sorry. Also was the word that set me off.

I just find this whole thing so horrific, I went off easily.

Sorry.


68 posted on 02/24/2005 7:50:13 PM PST by GopherGOPer
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To: Poser

preach on! of the evil in the world i can't believe this is even a blip on the screen. people here are bitching about a show they didn't even see.

furthermore, that girl is a hotty and brightens my evening everytime i watch that show.


69 posted on 02/24/2005 7:50:25 PM PST by postaldave (ACLU = Anti-Christian, Liberal, and Un-American.)
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To: GopherGOPer

:-)))


70 posted on 02/24/2005 7:51:13 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: wagglebee

Just plain nasty.


71 posted on 02/24/2005 7:51:44 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl
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To: Jorge
However, I can see how refusing Communion to a Protestant Christian by Catholics was also insulting, because it happened to me once, and I have never gone back to a Catholic Church since.

How could you receive the Body and Blood of Christ in the Catholic Church when you do not believe it is the Body and Blood of Christ? All people are welcome to come to any Catholic Church but you should respect the religion of the house you are attending as well as your own denomination.

72 posted on 02/24/2005 7:51:51 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: wagglebee

Oh for goodness sake. A communion wafer discarded is "blasphemy?" That is so silly. You are taking offense at the wrong thing.


73 posted on 02/24/2005 7:52:52 PM PST by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: wagglebee

BLASPHEMY!!!

yes, but in a free society, bad taste must be tolerated or christians, oops Christians, are just as bad as taliban regimes... don't watch the show.

move on. pray for forgiveness from the horrible thoughts projected on the ignorant writers of a horrible sitcom...

Jesus is bigger than that and i am sure he has a sense of humor that is pretty good, why else would He come up with only ten commandments to get into heaven and still have people complain eternal salvation is hard to achieve... why else would He construct the most efficient self-sustaining biosphere in a way that its scientific inhabitants would think it was all happenstance... why else would he sanction marriage to last until death do us part so that both will be happy in heaven...

teeman


74 posted on 02/24/2005 7:53:01 PM PST by teeman8r
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To: frogjerk

"Flushing Christ down the toilet or making the viewer believe this is respectful?"

They didn't flush Christ down the toilet. When they thought they might have, they were both mortified. Nobody made fun of Catholics or their beliefs.

Like I said, it was a farce about two inept non-Catholics trying to be respectful. Put an Ace bandage on that knee.


75 posted on 02/24/2005 7:53:28 PM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: kittymyrib
Because Jesus said when passing the bread to his disciples, "This IS my body...this IS my blood," it is difficult to see how one can misunderstand the real presence of Christ in the elements of Holy Communion. Unless, of course, you, like Bill Clinton, don't know what the meaning of "is" is.

Weak argument.

Any of the disciples could have heard what Jesus said, looked at the bread, and KNOWN that they were not ACTUALLY taking bites out of Jesus Himself.

It was clearly a Holy symbolic spiritual representation.

I guess you belief Christ Himself actually had to go through the experience of being flushed down a toilet at the moment this show was filmed?

Are you kidding?

76 posted on 02/24/2005 7:54:59 PM PST by Jorge
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To: SerpentDove

To the left, the only "protected" religion is Islam; and for whatever the reason, the more destruction the Jihadists produce, the more the left applauds them.


77 posted on 02/24/2005 7:55:07 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Jorge
You may have felt insulted, but refusing the Eucharist to non-Catholics is a necessary consequence of the difference in beliefs between Protestants and Catholics.

Because Catholics believe that the Host is Christ Himself, truly present, Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, and most Protestants do not (excepting some Episcopalians - the ones who aren't really Protestant ;-) ) it would be sacrilegious to offer communion to someone who does NOT believe in transubstantiation. Just as it would be sacrilegious for a Protestant to offer communion to somebody that he knows is an atheist.

78 posted on 02/24/2005 7:55:12 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: postaldave

I'm Catholic, and I voted for Buchanan because he not only represented my concerns about national security and economic issues, he is unashamedly pro life. Of course since I mentioned his name, I'll probably get flamed.

I no longer closely scrutinize a politican's pro life credentials, but vote against the democrats. Sucks, huh?


79 posted on 02/24/2005 7:56:05 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl
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To: wagglebee

Even if one believes in the spurious doctrine of transubstantiation, the wafer doesn't become Jesus until the priest says it becomes Jesus. Until then it is just a piece of bread. It isn't blasphemous to throw away a piece of bread and it isn't blasphemous to throw away a wafer that may or may not have been used sometime in the future for communion.


80 posted on 02/24/2005 7:56:26 PM PST by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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