Posted on 02/24/2005 12:27:21 PM PST by Calpernia
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"Our mission is to go out and educate and inform everyone about the dangers that tobacco use has not only on the person that uses it, but with secondhand smoke, the community and businesses," said Elizabeth Segarra, the CAT coordinator for Hudson County.
Both Chiappone and Assemblyman Louis Manzo, D-Jersey City, have proposed anti-smoking bills that are pending in the Assembly.
One, which Manzo co-sponsored, would permit municipalities, local boards of health or regional health commissions to prohibit smoking indoors in all public places.
"Politics and what makes sense for public health don't always jibe," Manzo told the crowd of about 25. "But I think we're getting there, and I think a lot of the impetus behind the smoking ban throughout every public place in New Jersey is going to happen."
Manzo also talked about a bill he introduced that would create an early detection and education program to be used for a public information campaign on lung cancer in women. He pointed out that more women in New Jersey succumb to lung cancer than to breast cancer.
Chiappone talked about bills he is co-sponsoring that would limit smoking in cars with passengers under 16 years old, raise the minimum age to purchase tobacco to 21 from 18, and prohibit tobacco and alcohol advertising within 500 feet of schools.
According to CAT, 13,000 New Jersey residents die each year from tobacco-related diseases.
Even though New Jersey, and Hudson County in particular, has consistently received low marks on American Cancer Society smoking report cards, yesterday's meeting was the first that CAT's Hudson County chapter has put together in four years.
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Whether you are for or against smoking, this is a major slippery slope. This is one step away from the state taking children.
I'm remembering either a Twilight Zone or Outer Limits episode with some guys wife getting electricuted because he smoked.
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Georgia is on its way.
http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/10975833.htm
We just killed one of these bans here in Virginia....it's not impossible.
And you are correct, it is a very slippery slope and it NOT about smoking - it's about control.
"..and I think a lot of the impetus behind the smoking ban throughout every public place in New Jersey is going to happen."
The true intent is to redifine all private property as public places, therefore they can incrementally confiscate private property. Actions aplauded by many Freepers.
Which is very frightening.
Indeed!
I think you're right. As I was reading a story about the Georgia Senate passing a ban here, I noted two things: First, they are referring to private businesses as "public places" and second, the author of the story felt the need to point out that the ban does not include homes.
It was on a movie called "Cat's Eye", the first part of it was about an unorthodox stop smoking clinic.
In Georgia, these bans were being defeated in cities with moderate success. The state ban will likely pass almost unnoticed. The irony is, the newly Republican controlled House will be what passes it. The Democrats in the House rejected the Republican Senate proposal last year. Why, on this particular issue, are the Republicans not able to see that this is an over-reach of government and not good policy?
This morning, CBS Morning Show actually had a fairly good segment on the issue of smoking bans. It covered several important points that the anti-smoke-ban people make on theses thread. Smokers being demonized; its not the government's job to police people from harming themselves with tobacco or alcohol; private business has the right to decide smoking or non smoking in their business; smokers saying that the study on harmful effects of second-hand smoke is invalid/not proven.
Oh that is right. Thank you.
In every place where they have either tried or succeeded with one of these bans they always seem to include that little line. Yet they always fail to mention that many of these bans do cover your home, if you run a business from your home.
The true intent is to redifine all private property as public places, therefore they can incrementally confiscate private property. Actions aplauded by many Freepers.
You got it! A lot of the alphabet agencies confiscate or limit private property. The EPA prohibits full use and access to private property without giving compensation in return for the taking -- proclaim its for the public good. Eighty percent of people that have property seized by the DEA are not charged or convicted of a crime. The IRS seizes property and bank accounts without due process. The list goes on and on...
That is why the antis have now moved to the state level.........they will not stop, because to stop pushing the bans means to lose their funding, thus their paychecks.
I don't know what the republicans in many states are thinking about with these bans. It was Hose republicans in Delaware, with the help of a snivelling lying rat Senator that shoved the ban down our throats. And it was a Senate republican pushing it here in Virginia....however the majority of the Senate Republicans slapped it down nearly 2 to 1.
Dang - I missed that. Hopefully someone I know will have taped it and so I can borrow it.
"Hose republicans"
Fruedian slip or not, that is an appropriate title!
It's frightening to me that the government can declare something a health hazard and then ban it where they like. This goes so far beyond the scope of what government in this country is supposed to be. I was at a hearing in my town where an economics professor made a fool of the city councilman who was proposing the ban. After going back and forth, the professor said, "Your concept of government frightens me." All I could do was laugh ... and the city councilman is a friend.
>>>>Why, on this particular issue, are the Republicans not able to see that this is an over-reach of government and not good policy?
Are they RINOs?
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