I pity the poor Creationists and ID'ers, I really do. They will never enjoy any of this. They will be stuck in the prosaic and mundane view that ignores the majesty of God's great creation.
That's why I asked, "What did I miss?"
I am facinated by sciences discoveries of God's appearent creation...I don't discount any of sciences theories expect those that are perpetrated as FACT when they are nothing but conjecture or at best, just a guess.
Well, I don't know you and I haven't followed your postings, so I don't know in detail what you believe.
Part of the issue is that many creationists (and I don't know if you are among them) deny the Big Bang explanation of the Universe as contrary to the Biblical interpretation of creation.
Part of the issue is that many creationists (and I don't know if you are among them) accuse scientists of being anti-God because we subscribe to the scientific explanations. I happen to be a Christian and this really is offensive to me.
Part of the issue is that many creationists (and I suspect you are among them) simply do not have a working knowledge of science or the definition of science. Ultimately, we talk past one another because the definitions we use for words and concepts are different.
Those of us who know what science is, and indeed are practicing researchers, know:
1. Science is not about truth. It is about fact. Science is defined not by outcome, but by process.
2. Science is minimalist. It does not try to explain what it does not have observation or first principle to address.
The fundamental argument I hear from the creationists and IDers is (my interpretation): "Evolution (or Big Bang) is a theory that is not completely correct and has problems. Moreover, scientits keep changing their view of it. Therefore, it is only a theory that they happen to believe; it is not truth. Creation is a belief supported by the bible and perhaps a few observations but it is something I believe. Well, the only difference is that we believe different things. There is no essential difference between Evolution (also Big Bang) and Creationism (or ID)."
The argument made by scientists is: "Big Bang and Evolution are science and I take them as science. Creationism and ID are not science, they are faith."
Note that the semantics of the two positions are different. We are talking different things. Creationists want to talk truth, scientists want to talk the scientific process. Evolution and the Big Bang are scientific theories because they were developed by the scientific method. Creationism and ID are not science because they were not developed by that method. Truth has nothing to do with it.
Scientists don't claim to know the "truth", that is the province of faith. We do claim to know "facts", which are different than truth and which can be observed. Moreover, science is a process which includes as essential elements an unbiased estimation and a minimalist explanation of existing observatations. Sciece flat out does not answer "why?"
So, consider the Big Bang. The Big Bang is a scientific theory. It is consistent with a raft of observation that includes astronomy, astrophysics, quantum mechanics, atomic physics, gravitation,...the list goes on. The Big Bang theory will change as we learn more. It will evolve. Parts of it will be found to be incorrect. That, indeed, is the process of science.
However, it is a beautiful theory.
The Big Bang theory does not attempt to explain how or why the initial explosion originally took place. We simply don't know and can't possibly find out. Science doesn't address this question. It is the result of working backwards in time from present observations. The science stops when we can no longer extrapolate from existing physics or observations.
How did the Big Bang happen? That is not a question for science because science cannot answer it. It is a question of faith. As a matter of MY faith, separate from MY intellectual understanding of science, I happen to believe thatt the Big Bang was God's creation. But, that is a belief based on faith, not science.
As a matter of science, Big Bang and Evolution are science and Creationism and ID are not. As a matter of FAITH, not science, I happen to believe that Creationism and ID are bad faith as well. In my opinion, as a matter of Faith, God's creation is much more magnificent as described by the Big Bang and Evolution than it is in the Biblican description or ID.
As allegory, I would argue that when you and the other creationists and IDers go to heaven, and I believe you will because you are probably good people, God will say: " Welcome to Heaven, sirchtruth. You were a good person. However, that Creationism thing? Did you really believe that was the best I could do????"