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Canadian Prime Minister says "nope" to missle defense.
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Posted on 02/23/2005 2:47:28 PM PST by doublehelix

This comes as no surprise, but our do-nothing neighbors to the North have declined participation in the missile defense shield. Apparently, the support just isn't there within the House to "risk" the Liberals losing future elections over.

The fact that this issue is so charged that Canadians would vote them out of office if they supported it should give us all a little into the mindset of our "allies." I don't know how else to read it other than Canadians prefering to bind our hands when it comes to defense. Does the majority of Canada prefer to see more destruction in the United States?


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; canada; dithers; liberal; martin; missle; missledefense; pmdithers; retard; shield; socialist; ungrateful; worthless

1 posted on 02/23/2005 2:47:31 PM PST by doublehelix
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To: doublehelix

I don't dislike Canadians but I can't stand their weak minded liberals......it stands to reason from a govt that has never had to make a life and death decision on world matters......too bad the U.S. can't afford to be so idealistic......we have a planet to save, not just a hockey season


2 posted on 02/23/2005 2:50:36 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: doublehelix
I think that we ought to assure the Canadians publicly that, in accord with their wishes, we will not use our antimissile technology to protect them.
3 posted on 02/23/2005 2:52:04 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: doublehelix
Then let's stop work on a missile interceptor and come up with that great big deflector shield thingee that will cause missiles to veer north. Duck and cover!
4 posted on 02/23/2005 2:52:46 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: NorCalRepub

Does this mean that NORAD is now defunct? If so don't they realize that if we go down they go down!


5 posted on 02/23/2005 2:53:35 PM PST by rocksblues (Liberalism is a sickness not a political ideology)
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To: doublehelix
The Canadians know they are safe from terrorist missile attacks. No terrorist is going to attack one of their main staging points.
6 posted on 02/23/2005 2:54:07 PM PST by Patti_ORiley
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To: NorCalRepub

Well, at least this gives us more intercept time to counter a northern attack if we don't have to include Canada in the shield. Of course, they get to deal with the fallout.


7 posted on 02/23/2005 2:54:30 PM PST by Gator101
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To: rocksblues

no.....NORAD is still operationally doing what it has always done....they do alot more than missle intercept.


8 posted on 02/23/2005 2:56:41 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Gator101

yeah.....I guess we will now have to build big fans on the border so when they get nuked, the fallout won't blow down on us....we need to send more acid rain up to them


9 posted on 02/23/2005 2:58:04 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: doublehelix

the dope says nope.


10 posted on 02/23/2005 3:00:18 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: doublehelix

Anyone living in the U.S. that knowingly buys a Canadian product is a traitor.


11 posted on 02/23/2005 3:02:44 PM PST by MCRD
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To: MCRD

I think our new Stryker APC is made in Canada.


12 posted on 02/23/2005 3:05:39 PM PST by Righty_McRight
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To: NorCalRepub

Ha! I just got the mental picture of all our draft-dogers and deserters trying to get back in to escape the fallout. "sorry buddy, you made your bed..."


13 posted on 02/23/2005 3:05:46 PM PST by Gator101
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To: doublehelix

Instead of a missile shield, we should deploy a Strategic Missile Pinball Bumper system that wont kill the missiles, merely deflect them into Canada.


14 posted on 02/23/2005 3:09:18 PM PST by keithtoo (Defeat Le' Partie' Democratique)
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To: doublehelix

Quite an insane calculation, by a nation of fewer people than California, spread out 3,500 miles.

Such nation in the direct line of polar route fire, between long time enemies Soviet Union (Russia), China and the USA.

Canada has to be presuming that: a) Future conflict never occurs over their soil, or b) The USA will protect them in spite of their calculations, or c) That the rivals will spare Canada because they are s peaceful and helpful and polite etc.

A calculation to NOT align oneself with the most powerful nation on earth. A calculation to be effectively an obstacle to the most powerful nation on earth, so far as defending itself.

Very weakminded logic and math basis.


15 posted on 02/23/2005 3:09:58 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Righty_McRight

Well if you're right, I want to puke.


16 posted on 02/23/2005 3:10:18 PM PST by MCRD
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To: Righty_McRight

Well if you're right, I want to puke.


17 posted on 02/23/2005 3:11:27 PM PST by MCRD
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To: doublehelix

Throw a cask of Amantillado over the border, and then wall 'em up.


18 posted on 02/23/2005 3:13:53 PM PST by PzLdr (Liberals are like slugs-they leave a trail of slime wherever they go.)
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To: NorCalRepub
...too bad the U.S. can't afford to be so idealistic......we have a planet to save, not just a hockey season.

Very well said! Profound in its factual satire.

19 posted on 02/23/2005 3:14:55 PM PST by elbucko (Feral Republican)
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To: truth_seeker
I'll add one:

Canada has to be presuming that:
a) Future conflict never occurs over their soil, or b) The USA will protect them in spite of their calculations, or
c) That the rivals will spare Canada because they are s peaceful and helpful and polite etc.

d)Canada's ally France will protect them.

20 posted on 02/23/2005 3:15:49 PM PST by RJL
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To: MCRD

Two thirds are made in Anniston Army Depot, Ala. The rest are made in London, Ontario, Canada.


21 posted on 02/23/2005 3:17:39 PM PST by Righty_McRight
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To: truth_seeker

I was pondering the possibility of any missile using the great circle route running out of gas, a bit short of the intended target. Would the country lauching it even bother to say oops?

I guess Canada is in a trusting mood...


22 posted on 02/23/2005 3:22:21 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: doublehelix

Maybe the Canadian Prime Minister would have said "yes", if there was just one successful test with the system. It even failed in unrealistic scenarios with gps-transmitting missiles to be intercepted.

When will it work or will it ever work? That's the important questions.


23 posted on 02/23/2005 3:22:57 PM PST by Jens Frens
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To: doublehelix

Canada rapidly dropping to the rank of a third world country. Take away jobs that America gives them and they are done.


24 posted on 02/23/2005 3:24:05 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: sgtbono2002

You folks are hilarious! Thanks for the chuckles and good luck with that war thingy.


25 posted on 02/23/2005 3:29:01 PM PST by MikeAdamson
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To: Jens Frens

I think Donald Rumsfeld best addressed this issue:

DR: "I think the word "deploying" needs to be calibrated. What's being done here is not a pure test and not a pure deployment, but deploying the pieces of the capability that will evolve into an early missile defense capability, and the way to do that, according to the people who are working on this -- and I agree and subscribe to the concept -- is to get it in the ground in a modest way, work the problems, keep testing, and as that capability evolves, you will begin to have the early stages of a missile defense capability. If you didn't do anything until you could do everything, you probably wouldn't do anything."


26 posted on 02/23/2005 3:34:19 PM PST by Gator101
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To: truth_seeker

Quite the opposite..actually the first sign that the Domiunion is starting to fragment....the separatists in Quebec want yet another vote....and another, and other, until they get what they want...soon, you're going to see a movement in the western provinces to chuck it all, and let them go..I do hope we take PEI in as well..good mussels..


27 posted on 02/23/2005 3:40:22 PM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: doublehelix
Don't worry! Our engineers are highly intelligent and well trained. They will be able to program our interceptors so the ignore and missiles headed farther north. After all we would not want to waste any of the precious defense missile on people that don't really like us, would we?
28 posted on 02/23/2005 3:41:36 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Gator101

I completely agree to Donald's statement, but i think as long as the progresses made in the system's developement can't be shown in a successful test, it may be difficult for Canadians to believe in it's future.


29 posted on 02/23/2005 3:46:40 PM PST by Jens Frens
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To: Righty_McRight

No, I believe the Cansucks bought that one from us.


30 posted on 02/23/2005 3:50:46 PM PST by LowInMo (Pray for Dow Jones and the Nasdaqi's.)
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To: Jens Frens
I agree completely. My great grandfather tried to tell the Wright brothers that "it will never fly", but the damn fools kept trying.
31 posted on 02/23/2005 3:54:38 PM PST by LowInMo (Pray for Dow Jones and the Nasdaqi's.)
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To: MikeAdamson

Hi there Dummieland! Why is it that you can sign up and post here at will but DU will not let poor people sign up to their site? I can't afford to be a Dimocrat.


32 posted on 02/23/2005 3:57:38 PM PST by LowInMo (Pray for Dow Jones and the Nasdaqi's.)
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To: Jens Frens

True. But it sounds like they are opting out of even the possible development of the system. In other words they don't want to take part developing it *but* if it ends up working you can bet they will benefit from it. This essentially sums up the type of relationship we have with Canada and it frustrates many Americans.


33 posted on 02/23/2005 4:01:31 PM PST by Gator101
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To: MCRD
Anyone living in the U.S. that knowingly buys a Canadian product is a traitor.

Well, that's all the more reason to buy a Japanese or European car. Many GM, Ford and Chrysler models come from Canada.

I love my Mazda.

34 posted on 02/23/2005 5:26:06 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: vbmoneyspender

That pretty much sums it up. Martin (Mr. Dithers) is an embarrassment. You can't trust a word he says.


35 posted on 02/23/2005 6:35:05 PM PST by NorthOf45
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To: MikeAdamson

If you think we are funny you shoudl see what we think of you, especially how you ruined the Boy scouts with girls and queers that was hilarious. and the health care you guys have ,funny stuff. Probably the funniest is the way you let your Canadian Frogs frighten you.


36 posted on 02/23/2005 6:53:43 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Gator101

I'll be the Canadian government just winds up quietly leasing large tracks of northern terrority to a little known company called ecroF riA setatS detinU, Inc. That way they can publically take a stand but in reality, they'll fold like a laundromat.


37 posted on 02/24/2005 1:10:44 PM PST by Sax
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To: Sax

be=bet


38 posted on 02/24/2005 1:11:16 PM PST by Sax
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