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Parents rally activists in final battle to keep daughter alive [Terri Schiavo]
Times online.co.uk ^ | 2/21/2005 | Jacqui Goddard

Posted on 02/20/2005 5:52:01 PM PST by bjs1779

...Mr Schiavo, who lives with a girlfriend by whom he has two children, plans to withdraw the gastric tube through which his wife is fed when a temporary court order barring him expires tomorrow. He insists that his wife once told him that she would not want to be kept alive should she ever suffer brain damage, although he recalled the conversation three years after her collapse and only after winning $1 million in medical negligence damages relating to her early care....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: FL_engineer; Ohioan from Florida
Here is the letter I sent.

I would like to remind Ed Beck (Opinion, Monday 2/21) of the fact that the gods of Medicine and Science were incorrect in their decision that the cerebral cortex of Karen Quinlan had been destroyed.

Some ten or more years after the autopsy it was finally revealed that in fact, her cerebral cortex was in quite good shape after all. And yet, Karen Quinlan exhibited what I would consider to be far less ability than that clearly shown in the online videos of Terri Schiavo.

It's wonderful that Ed Beck can be so sure that Terri is in a state of PVS, and that she will not suffer from the horrors of death by dehydration. I recall, however, that in the 1970's or so we were doing surgery on newborns with no anesthesia, because we believed that they could feel no pain.

I find it horrifying to read how closely Ed echoes those from a not-so-long-ago time, in his assurance that PVS is a reason to dehydrate someone to death. A living person who smiles, breathes, and laughs, who has not even been given the chance to feed or hydrate herself, is dehumanized to the status of useless eater in the space of a few paragraphs.

I have little doubt that Terri will join her predecessors, Hugh Finn, Christine Busalacchi, Nancy Cruzan, Marjorie Nighbert, and the hundreds like them who never made the news.

Ed is in the right business for our time, that of making people die before God or their bodies do it first. And he seems to be in the right state to run a booming hospice business, as well.

It is not the Schindlers for whom I feel "heartbroken", however. Hope, love, and the willingness to care for someone in a time of need were once considered honorable traits in our society. Whatever happens, the Schindlers can always be assured that they chose the path of honor and nobility in their actions.

The state of Florida now bears a new stigma, which is not being missed by those of us living elsewhere. Destin will not see my face or those of my family again.

121 posted on 02/21/2005 2:30:23 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: All
I googled End of Life Choices and found this.

Ok, they target the elderly and dying and offer a "life membership". It's the most expensive membership option, and the only difference between it and the one preceding it is a "recognition certificate".

122 posted on 02/21/2005 2:53:29 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: amdgmary
You know what I still think we need is a really good anti-tourist pic. A state of Florida with a skull on it, and a person lying in a bed about to be injected.

We need to take Florida from the Sunshine State to the "Sundown State" or something like that.

123 posted on 02/21/2005 3:10:30 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Melas

One does not preclude the other.


124 posted on 02/21/2005 3:26:25 AM PST by Wampus SC
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To: the invisib1e hand

Argeed 100%


125 posted on 02/21/2005 3:33:00 AM PST by Wampus SC
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To: Wampus SC

Oh no, not again!

Argeed=Agreed


126 posted on 02/21/2005 3:34:13 AM PST by Wampus SC
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To: curiousmind
"Felos thinks the Holocaust was a good thing for the world."

Felos wrote in his book, "The human race, driven by greed and lust for violence came, with the impending advent of nuclear weapons, upon the verge of annihilation. Only the most shocking example of human debasement, only an unimaginable cruetly could waken humanity before the hovering doom descended. The Jewish people, long ago in their collective consciouslness, agreed to play the role of the lame whose slaughter was necessary to shock humanity into a new moral consciousness. Their sacrifice saved humanity at the brink of extinction and propelled us into a 'new age.'

"If our minds can conceive of an uplifting Holocaust, can it be so diffucult to look another way at the slights and injuries and abuses we perceive were inflicted upon us?"

127 posted on 02/21/2005 3:36:12 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org & www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: curiousmind

Please excuse the typos in the quotes.


128 posted on 02/21/2005 3:41:31 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org & www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: MarMema
"You know what I still think we need is a really good anti-tourist pic. A state of Florida with a skull on it, and a person lying in a bed about to be injected.

We need to take Florida from the Sunshine State to the "Sundown State" or something like that."



129 posted on 02/21/2005 3:41:40 AM PST by Wampus SC
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To: amdgmary
That's one of the most evil things I've ever read. He's basically saying that the Jews subconsciously wanted it! It's hard to believe that anyone would think like that - yet here it is.

"Only the most shocking example of human debasement, only an unimaginable cruetly could waken humanity before the hovering doom descended."

Well, Felos sure knows about unimaginable cruelty. And he surely knows about shocking examples of human debasement -- he's setting one.
130 posted on 02/21/2005 3:50:00 AM PST by Wampus SC
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To: Wampus SC
"He's basically saying that the Jews subconsciously wanted it [holocaust]."

You're right. That's how many people are reading it. Frightening.

131 posted on 02/21/2005 3:55:59 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org & www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: Goodgirlinred
If there is concern about injuries sustained in a beating or prior beatings, why don't they do a CT scan or MRI?

Michael Schiavo is the legal guardian -- he won't allow it. He has spent almost a $1 million trying to kill Terri.

He has been referred to as a monster in another thread for many reasons.

132 posted on 02/21/2005 4:33:16 AM PST by topher (Pray for our leaders -- Pray for our Chief Justice of the Supreme Court)
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To: bjs1779

Wonderful Idea to increase the bursting of the blogosphere for Terri from News

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Protect Terri from those who
are trying to kill her.

They want to start killing her as
early as February 22nd, 2005. This coming Tuesday.

---

"I don't want anyone trying
to feed that girl...
the law of the case is
that she is going to die"
-- pseudo judge George W. Greer
from the bench in 2001.


133 posted on 02/21/2005 4:34:52 AM PST by pc93
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To: Pegita

What a beautiful, beautiful prayer. Amen, I stand in agreeement with you in Jesus' name.


134 posted on 02/21/2005 5:05:08 AM PST by Freepertwo
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To: Freepertwo

to your post #134

I too stand in aggreement. "....if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for,it will be done for them by my father in heaven. Matthew 18:19


135 posted on 02/21/2005 6:20:54 AM PST by lula (plsjr's wife)
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To: FL_engineer

BUMP! #109


136 posted on 02/21/2005 6:48:49 AM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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To: Fishtalk
We were not even asked if we wanted to remove his feeding tube so I don't know how this woman's husband gets to demand this.

The Judges are ignoring existing laws down there. She can eat orally too, but the Judge won't let her.

Florida law statue:
765.309 Mercy killing or euthanasia not authorized; suicide distinguished.--

(1) Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to condone, authorize, or approve mercy killing or euthanasia, or to permit any affirmative or deliberate act or omission to end life other than to permit the natural process of dying.

137 posted on 02/21/2005 7:16:00 AM PST by bjs1779 (" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
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To: topher

Why can't the court take over legal guardianship and order the tests? If there is substantiated reason to believe he is the cause of her injuries, then that should be done. I am surprised that the hospital did not order it done when they were sued, or rather their attorneys.


138 posted on 02/21/2005 7:17:55 AM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: curiousmind

He works in a medical facility??? Is he a nurse or physician's assistant?


139 posted on 02/21/2005 7:20:36 AM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: LADY J
God help you to make the right decision that is in your power to make. If this were your child - you (Governor Bush)would make that decision.

Good one Lady J!

140 posted on 02/21/2005 7:24:12 AM PST by bjs1779 (" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
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