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Remarks About Gays: Professor Rejects Gestures
Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | February 19, 2005 | K.C. Howard

Posted on 02/19/2005 2:36:12 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Feb-19-Sat-2005/news/25901454.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: academia; academicfreedom; hoppe; pc; unlv
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This is a great victory and everyone who wrote or called the UNLV regents and president in Hoppe's behalf should be proud. However, Hoppe is right to demand an apology and freepers should join him in this demand by keeping the heat on.
1 posted on 02/19/2005 2:36:14 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Hoppe is right to demand an apology AND the sabbatical!
2 posted on 02/19/2005 2:52:31 PM PST by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: Austin Willard Wright

Could you post a summary of what happened?


3 posted on 02/19/2005 2:57:24 PM PST by little jeremiah
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"Michael Knight, the student who complained about remarks Hoppe made regarding homosexuals, said the professor's demands were too much.

"The university is gracious enough to remove that letter from his personnel file, and he should consider this his vindication and move on and get a life," Knight said.

Snotty little twirp, isn't he.

4 posted on 02/19/2005 2:58:12 PM PST by Fido969
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To: SmithL

This is very good news. I am not so sure he deserves a special sabbatical. I think an apology for infringing on his right to teach economics is in order.

Curiously, I found myself saying something similar in a class not long after reading what he said. I did not happen to mention homosexuals my example but it was the same idea that increase risk and less concern about the future cause a change in behavior. Hoppe's point is pretty settled economics. Whether homosexuals empirically change their behavior due to being less connection to the future and higher risk life style may not have been studied, but his conjecture is hardly even enough to raise an eye brow about.


5 posted on 02/19/2005 2:59:54 PM PST by JLS
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To: Fido969
You'd be snotty too if you owned K.I.T., the ultra-cool weapons laden car of the FUTURE and drove around fighting crime.

"Hit turbo boost, K.I.T.!"

APf
6 posted on 02/19/2005 3:02:19 PM PST by APFel (For some reason, the word "Freeper" is flagged by the spellcheck. Someone contact Websters.)
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"Earlier this month, Executive Vice Provost Ray Alden placed a non-disciplinary letter in Hoppe's file condemning Hoppe's statement regarding homosexuals. Alden said he violated standards of accuracy, scholarship and instructional responsibility. "



And in related news -- Ward Churchill continues to spew his anti-US hatred, and terrorist supporting rhetoric...


What double standards!


7 posted on 02/19/2005 3:07:05 PM PST by FairOpinion (It is better to light a candle, than curse the darkness.)
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To: little jeremiah

The article summarize it:


http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Feb-19-Sat-2005/news/25901454.html


8 posted on 02/19/2005 3:08:10 PM PST by FairOpinion (It is better to light a candle, than curse the darkness.)
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My advice to Hoppe - do not take your boot off the throat of UNLV until you get what you are asking for. In my opinion you're in the driver's seat on this one, and these folks will never learn about academic freedom of speech until you make them pay.
9 posted on 02/19/2005 3:13:22 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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"Michael Knight, the student who complained about remarks Hoppe made regarding homosexuals, said the professor's demands were too much.

"The university is gracious enough to remove that letter from his personnel file, and he should consider this his vindication and move on and get a life," Knight said.

Care to file another complaint, Mikey, or are you "done" now? What's that about "moving on" and "getting a life" again, Mikey?

10 posted on 02/19/2005 3:16:15 PM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Exactly, an apology is the very least UNLV can do at this point for putting him through this nonsense.


11 posted on 02/19/2005 3:19:12 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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Another example Hoppe gave was homosexuals, who, he said, tend to plan less for the future than heterosexuals. In part, that is because homosexuals usually have no children, he said

He was persecuted for that?

He was right, but for the wrong reason. Homosexuals do not plan for the future because the very nature of their mental illness causes them to be self absorbed hedonists, always living in the present, perpetually in search of self-gratification. That is why they don't plan for the future.

12 posted on 02/19/2005 3:20:50 PM PST by ElkGroveDan
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Knight, the student who filed the complaint, read Harter's statement Friday night.

"Wow," he said. "I'm just in shock."

He said he was disappointed but accepted the university's decision, saying his complaint had been heard.

"It went through the proper motions, and it's a sad day for the gay community in a sense because Dr. Hoppe won," Knight said. "OK, he didn't really win. He threatened to file a lawsuit against the university."

More proof, if any were still needed, that "the gay community" is a willful and conscious threat to free expression both within and without the academy.

13 posted on 02/19/2005 3:23:28 PM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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He was right, but for the wrong reason. Homosexuals do not plan for the future because the very nature of their mental illness causes them to be self absorbed hedonists, always living in the present, perpetually in search of self-gratification. That is why they don't plan for the future.

Bingo! So true and worth repeating.

14 posted on 02/19/2005 4:31:22 PM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
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To: FairOpinion

I was hoping a kind freeper would summarize it for me as there is something wrong with my phone line and (believe it or not) my dial up is currently (checking) 9600 bps.

Tomorrow it should be fixed and I can re-enter the 20th century.


15 posted on 02/19/2005 4:59:12 PM PST by little jeremiah
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"In a March 2004 economics class, Hoppe was discussing groups that generally plan for the future and those that do not.

Very young and very old people tend not to plan for the future, he said. And couples with children tend to plan more than couples without.

Another example Hoppe gave was homosexuals, who, he said, tend to plan less for the future than heterosexuals. In part, that is because homosexuals usually have no children, he said."

This is what the homosexual found offensive.


16 posted on 02/19/2005 5:02:02 PM PST by FairOpinion (It is better to light a candle, than curse the darkness.)
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To: FairOpinion

Thanks...some info on the thread as well. Clears it up.

IOW, no one is allowed to say anything about homosexuality other than "Gay is Good" in a loud clear voice.


17 posted on 02/19/2005 5:40:45 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

bttt


18 posted on 02/20/2005 7:33:20 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Map Kernow
"Care to file another complaint, Mikey, or are you "done" now? What's that about "moving on" and "getting a life" again, Mikey?"

Mikey didn't have someone try to hurt his career. He think we should just roll over when we are attacked by his ilk.

19 posted on 02/21/2005 6:57:07 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
" So true"

But, regardless of the reason, is the statement true that gays generally don't save?

20 posted on 02/21/2005 7:03:18 AM PST by Fido969
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