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Odd frames. You come here and trash Republicans. Think of a person from Kansas who votes Republican and stuns Dems with an unwillingness to sell out for a dem bribe. The typical dem bribe being "you'll get someone's tax dollars if you stay with us". Here's the problem. No one believes dems, and if they did, they know dems make the same promise to anyone willing to vote for them. Then, Bush is making sure dems can't buy voters ... so those promised have even less a chace to collect. Republicans win votes and voters.

Republicans don't have to buy votes or voters. We don't have to cheat like the dems do... How do you feel about what I've said? Please answer directly -- stop constantly reframing ( the old term was "changing the subject"). If you won't answer, say so.

I've read some of your other comments and I would like to see if you can trash dems. I suspect it might be difficult for you. Give it a try. I'm waiting for your response.

I see. So the new republican justifies fiscal irresponsibility by changing the subject to the evils of greed, power, and fornication.

"How do you feel about what I've said? Please answer directly -- stop constantly reframing ( the old term was "changing the subject"). If you won't answer, say so."

What the devil are you talking about? I asked you whether you would be willing to defend the current fiscal and budgetary excesses from the new republican perspective - a perspective that you yourself have declared to be different from our "Daddy's republican" perspective. Please re-read post 17.

You then went off in post 18 on a bizarre diatribe about the evils of greed and fornication (and added for good measure some kind of socialist nonsense about how the new republicans are battling the rich liberals to protect the rights of immigrant laborers -- what the heck is that all about?).

I haven't changed the subject or re-framed the issue. You have. Fiscal irresponsibility is not justified by self righteous chest-thumping about pornography.

Now how about it? Please offer a defense of the fiscal and budgetary largesse we are currently witnessing in Washington from your "new republican" perspective. I can't do it, because I am in fact still a member of what you have derided as our "Daddy's republican party." You remember, don't you? Small government, balanced budgets, de-centralization, all that stuff that is now just so much bunkum to the "new republicans."