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Prosecutor argues seizure of Rush Limbaugh's medical records fair
South Florid Sun-Sentinel / AP ^ | February 14 2005, 4:00 PM EST | Jill Barton

Posted on 02/14/2005 1:34:15 PM PST by rface

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To: RushCrush
It doesn't matter what Rush thinks! It matters what WE think! :)

I know. I was using a bit of sarcasm. We determine whether he continues or not. And I don't see too many people jumping ship. How about you?

41 posted on 02/14/2005 2:02:53 PM PST by writer33 ("In Defense of Liberty," a political thriller, being released in March)
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To: writer33

I'm not jumping! he's the only one I learn anything from. I tell that to others as well.

Let me put it this way, I HATE football, yet I can happily listen to Rush talk about football.


42 posted on 02/14/2005 2:04:13 PM PST by RushCrush (If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement. - Reagan)
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To: YaYa123

This is why he matters and why the left hates him so:



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329283/posts


43 posted on 02/14/2005 2:04:43 PM PST by writer33 ("In Defense of Liberty," a political thriller, being released in March)
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To: rface; RS
``Privacy rights cannot operate as an impenetrable shield to conceal, camouflage, or secrete evidence of criminal wrongdoing,'' Martz wrote. Limbaugh and his attorney, Roy Black, had no comment on Monday.

Bump

44 posted on 02/14/2005 2:05:38 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

The interesting thing about this prosecutors statement is that he wants Rush to throw away his rights, just so he can find evidence he can use against him.

His 'privacy' statement is very telling in that, if he were prosecuting Al Capone during the prohibition years, he would have found out that 'privacy' triumphs over 'states rights'.

I can be the worst criminal in the world, but unless you have 'hard facts' based on solid evidence, my 'rights' will win out everytime.


45 posted on 02/14/2005 2:05:49 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: RushCrush
Let me put it this way, I HATE football, yet I can happily listen to Rush talk about football.

Now you've completely lost my respect. :) Hehehehe! I'm only kidding!

And you're right on a serious note.

46 posted on 02/14/2005 2:06:23 PM PST by writer33 ("In Defense of Liberty," a political thriller, being released in March)
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To: CitizenHelper
Rush might have to swallow the bitter pill of irony.

Why do you say that? Rush has never been a JBT fanboy, unlike the Drug War cherleaders that sometimes show up here.

47 posted on 02/14/2005 2:06:45 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
That's what I understood. That the prosecutors deliberately circumvented the statutory procedure to obtain the records before Rush or his lawyer knew about it.
48 posted on 02/14/2005 2:06:53 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: LachlanMinnesota; RS
And your evidence that he was buying drugs illegally is what?

The list of drugs and the dates they were purchased was attached to the affidavit for the search warrant. The amounts and dates overlap and is prima facia evidence of doctor shopping, a crime under florida law.

49 posted on 02/14/2005 2:07:14 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Bigh4u2
The interesting thing about this prosecutors statement is that he wants Rush to throw away his rights, just so he can find evidence he can use against him.

Um, the prosecutor already found the evidence he needs, Rush and Roy Black are trying to keep it out of Rush's criminal trial.

50 posted on 02/14/2005 2:08:27 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: rface

On a side note...
Rush said that one thing they did in rehab was to prescribe Vioxx for his pain. Now that it's off the market I wonder what he's using.



51 posted on 02/14/2005 2:09:35 PM PST by Lx (Tuesday is Soylent green day!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

This is what 'liberalism' has come to these days for its stauchest adherents.

These Liberals need to take a good hard look at themselves...they have morphed into everything they once professed to hate.


52 posted on 02/14/2005 2:10:04 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: writer33

I don't think the issues are the same at all. The special privileges are generally creatures of state statutory or common law. In Rush's case, I believe the prosecutors did not follow the statutory notice requirements, and the issue is whether this procedure means anything.

In Roe, I do not think that there was a comparible issue involved. The court was looking at a different kind of privacy rights all together.


53 posted on 02/14/2005 2:10:09 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: eno_

I say that only becasue Rush has been so intolerant of drug addicts and he became one himself....ironic, yes?


54 posted on 02/14/2005 2:10:46 PM PST by CitizenHelper
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To: writer33

Hey, i'm a chick. We can get a pass on the football thing, right?

or should i say i'm a 'babe'?


55 posted on 02/14/2005 2:11:17 PM PST by RushCrush (If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement. - Reagan)
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To: ClintonBeGone

It is not proven because the prosecution submits an affidavit. The defense gets to have an opportunity to explain the situation, including to deny athe allegations in the document supporting the warrant. The police offer is not the fact finder, the court is, after a contested hearing.


56 posted on 02/14/2005 2:11:57 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: camle
"Assistant State Attorney James Martz said Limbaugh's argument that he should have been notified before the records were seized by investigators is equivalent to saying ``that law enforcement is never to be trusted.''

In following this case, one of the things that has come out is that if law enforcement officials want medical records under Florida Law, they have to subpoena them. It is a requirement of Florida Law - not a requirement of Rush Limbaugh. Thus, the ASA's point is not valid. If they violated a statutory requirement to get the medical records, if they didn't follow black letter law, it is correct in this matter to assume that law enforcement was not to be trusted.

There must have been some legislative reason for the lawmakers to put this particular requirement into law regarding medical records. Perhaps, they too, have medical records, and would like to have a chance to have any such records sealed before people went rummaging through them before they could challenge the seizure in court. And remember, Limbaugh probably did not possess the records anyway, they were possessed by his doctors. There was little danger of the records being hidden or destroyed. Which, by the way, further erodes any given argument of the ASA about trust.

57 posted on 02/14/2005 2:12:29 PM PST by Enterprise ("Dance with the Devil by the Pale Moonlight" - Islam compels you!)
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To: ClintonBeGone

"Um, the prosecutor already found the evidence he needs,"

How so?

By looking at records they had to legal authority to do?

Or by the fact that Rush had two doctors who prescribed the same drugs?

How is that 'evidence of doctor shopping'?


If both doctors prescribed the drugs for differing symptoms, the it isn't.

I have two doctors who prescribe 'inhalers' that I have to use.

One is Atrovent, and the other it Albuterol.

Does that mean I am 'doctor' shopping to find relief?

Not likely.


58 posted on 02/14/2005 2:13:01 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: WindOracle
Doctor shopping in Florida was made a crime as a means to discourage the terrible scourge of illegal drug use in that state.

As for Rush, hiring Roy Black was his second error of judgement. The first being his abuse of painkillers.

59 posted on 02/14/2005 2:15:24 PM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: WindOracle

Agree - great point!


60 posted on 02/14/2005 2:15:27 PM PST by Enterprise ("Dance with the Devil by the Pale Moonlight" - Islam compels you!)
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