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CA: Governor calls GOP to 'great battle' ('ToTal ReFoRm')
Sac Bee ^ | 2/11/05 | Gary Delsohn

Posted on 02/12/2005 10:56:24 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Characterizing his agenda this year as a "great battle" against "evil," Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger used a 28-minute speech at the state Republican convention Friday night to rally fellow party members around his plans to fight Democratic interests at the ballot box.

Vowing to pass four broad government-overhaul measures at a special election later this year, Schwarzenegger said public employee labor unions and other foes are amassing $200 million to fight him.

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"That's why they fixed a little here, a little there. But now we're going to the source. We're going right there where all the evil is, and we're going to fix this problem once and for all."

Belittling his Democratic adversaries in the Legislature for not responding to his proposals because they must be on "sleeping pills ... or medication," Schwarzenegger suggested they've all but blown their chance to join him.

"They can go ahead and do whatever they want," he bellowed in a line that drew loud applause from the 1,000 Republicans at the Hyatt Hotel in downtown Sacramento. "The train has left the station.

"The train has left the station and there (are) three things they can do. One is they can join and then jump on the train. Number two, they can go and stand behind and just wave and be left behind. Or number three, they get in front of the train - and you know what happens then."

When the raucous applause and laughter died down, Schwarzenegger did what he always seems to do while delivering a fiery speech deriding the Democrats: He said how much he wants to work with them.

"It is my preference to go and work with the legislators," he said. "This is my number one preference. Work together like with some of the issues we did last year."

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: battle; calls; caunions; gop; governor; redistricting; schwarzenegger; tenure; unionpower
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To: Carry_Okie

>>It's taken longer than that and has cost us an unnecessary $15 BILLION in debt.

Make that $25 Billion if the "spending control" measure passes.

Remember all those promises he made to the teachers, et.al.? He now wants to spread that over 15 years, while continuing to spend increasing revenues on other social programs.


101 posted on 02/12/2005 3:35:52 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: NorCalRepub

And what do you consider "progress"? Putting 1/5 of the state land under the Sierra Nevada Conservancy, run by unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats? Putting the state $25 billion in debt, while continuing to increase spending for more social programs? Diverting expense to the local level (with no matching revenue) to force local tax increases?

Please note, these are not "single issues" nor do they have much to do with "social views," unless of course you consider communism a social view that should be accepted in the interest of "moderation".


102 posted on 02/12/2005 3:46:54 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: NorCalRepub

>>well almost all of Arnold's initiatives that he supported

Yep. Gotta love that Stem-cell research scam. All in the name of "progress?"


103 posted on 02/12/2005 3:47:51 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion; Carry_Okie

>>You are distorting and misrepresenting his record.

You have stated such before, and in response been asked on repeated occasions for specifics.

You have never provided any, instead choosing to cut-and-run.

The record is what it is, no matter what you want it to be.


104 posted on 02/12/2005 3:51:46 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
I believe that Arnold saw that this research was going dominate the landscape here and especially abroad....this is the one issue I tend to be a moderate on...........I'm am very pro life and think we should look at all avenues. It is a touchy subject but for instance, if some petri dish eggs are being thrown away down the drain, then maybe we can use them to some benefit.........I know this is a "flame away" issue but I tend to agree paritally with Orin Hatch who can not be construed as some type of non Christian RINO
105 posted on 02/12/2005 3:54:09 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: FairOpinion; NormsRevenge
Larry J. Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia and editor of a book on initiatives, described Schwarzenegger's style as "elite direct democracy…. It's 'Trust the people, after I have informed them.'

106 posted on 02/12/2005 3:59:27 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Wouldn't you rather have people vote after Arnold informed them, than only base their votes on the information they get from the MSM?

Also, most Republicans recognize how important Arnold is to the CA GOP.


Calif. Republicans rallying on Schwarzenegger agenda
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1341970/posts


Republicans meeting at the party's state convention in Sacramento said they will eagerly fight by Schwarzenegger's side if he asks voters to support this year's agenda through ballot measures, a sharp contrast to a September convention when party officials feared key conservative members would not embrace the socially moderate Hollywood icon.

Republicans gave Schwarzenegger raucous cheers, reflecting a new confidence after years of being shut out in California's political wilderness.

"There's a euphoria that we're relevant again," said U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa. "The Republican party was doing very well in Washington, and was irrelevant in California for a number of years. It was also divided and leaderless. Now they are united with a tremendous leader."


107 posted on 02/12/2005 4:02:38 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: NorCalRepub

There is no control of expenditures. There is no payback arrangement to the state. It will cost taxpayers $6 billion dollars, at least. If there is a great payback, then private capital would be investing right and left. They aren't.

There is nothing in my stated objection to this initiative that had to do with "petri dishes" or "life" issues, as you refer. It is FISCAL conservatism. Your positions are not only moderate on liberal on social issues, but fiscal issues as well.


108 posted on 02/12/2005 4:04:08 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Maybe you're right.

It' would've been better to stick with Gray Davis...


109 posted on 02/12/2005 4:05:13 PM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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To: calcowgirl

but of course you know that past initiatives that fixed a certain % of revenues to certain programs is the devil here. The initiative process can be both good and bad. We need to get rid of those fixed cost money's to various program.....I am a very fiscal conservative bordering on being a Libertarian but we need to do what we can do with what we have until we shore up the spending programs


110 posted on 02/12/2005 4:08:54 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: ClintonBeGone
He and Cruz were in bed with the indians, who came at Arnold HARD.

McClintock stated on more than one occasion that the Indian tribes were sovereign nations. He then accepted campaign contributions from them.

Didn't we get upset at Bill Clinton for accepting campaign contributions from foreign governments?

111 posted on 02/12/2005 4:09:19 PM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: ClintonBeGone

>>You Arnold haters always talk in generalizations.

No one hates Arnold. They hate his record.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1341852/posts?page=26#26


112 posted on 02/12/2005 4:10:52 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion

>>Wouldn't you rather have people vote after Arnold informed them

I'd rather people vote after they have been informed of facts.

Unfortunately, the former has yet to coincide with the latter.


113 posted on 02/12/2005 4:14:09 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: JesseJane

Compare the record. Davis wanted to borrow less and spend less. He also vetoed the Sierra Nevada Conservancy. History will show that we are no better off. In fact, it already shows that we are worse off.

Blindly following an R or D is a dangerous sport. Be careful.


114 posted on 02/12/2005 4:16:23 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

"I'd rather people vote after they have been informed of facts. "

And who are you counting on to inform them, the MSM?


115 posted on 02/12/2005 4:16:40 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: NorCalRepub

The labels you attribute to yourself are inconsistent with your posted opinions.


116 posted on 02/12/2005 4:17:43 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion

How about those who are pushing the measure accurately presenting the facts?
Just a thought.


117 posted on 02/12/2005 4:32:17 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

that is because you are taking one opinion out of many and labeling it......my one position regarding Calif is not a composite of the many facets of my opinions of ALL policy, national and state.....you can't really extrapolate from this to all my ideas and policy thoughts........


118 posted on 02/12/2005 4:36:14 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub

Ahhh.... but I base my opinion on having noticed many, many of your posts, on many different issues.


119 posted on 02/12/2005 4:47:43 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

well since I've not pontificated much on fiscal conservatives except for Calif then so be it....are you now just here to bust my balls, I have a healthy self esteen and your efforts to try and undermine my opinion are failing badly..........what is your reason for continuing your diatribe.....???????


120 posted on 02/12/2005 4:53:40 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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