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Audience misbehavior at 'Coach Carter' (riots at basketball movie)
Sacramento Bee ^ | Jan 31 05 | R.E. Graswich

Posted on 01/31/2005 7:04:05 PM PST by churchillbuff

Young people have been running amok at Sacramento showings of "Coach Carter," the Samuel L. Jackson film about a Richmond basketball coach who straightens out wayward students. Rachel Kahan was at a Century Stadium 14 showing on Arden and Ethan when a riot broke out. "Kids were beating up a security guard, and they attacked the manager," she said. "It was awful. And what makes it worse was that the behavior was exactly what the character Coach Carter is fighting against." Other showings have been disrupted by shouts and threats from boozed up fans. Paramount Pictures, which distributes "Coach Carter," won't comment. The Coach Carter Foundation in Richmond, an organization founded by the film's namesake, Ken Carter, won't comment. Century Theaters won't comment. Sacramento police and the Sacramento County sheriff rolled an "all units" alert to break up the "Coach Carter" brawl at Century Stadium. ...

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1 posted on 01/31/2005 7:04:06 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Imagine that.


2 posted on 01/31/2005 7:05:14 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: churchillbuff
I don't think they took the right message from the movie.
3 posted on 01/31/2005 7:06:05 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: churchillbuff

Here in Vegas a few weeks back they had gang violence and shootings at two theaters when this movie was being shown.


4 posted on 01/31/2005 7:07:37 PM PST by sweetiepiezer ((((((((((((((MARINES))))))))))))))
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To: sweetiepiezer
Here in Vegas a few weeks back they had gang violence and shootings at two theaters when this movie was being shown."""

This is the Democrat Party's "base"

5 posted on 01/31/2005 7:09:00 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Gotta love those blue cities...


6 posted on 01/31/2005 7:10:23 PM PST by kenth (My tagline has been accidentally deleted.)
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To: churchillbuff

too much OE?


7 posted on 01/31/2005 7:11:16 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (john f'n kerry-the original 'million dollar baby'.)
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To: churchillbuff

hmmmpff....nothing more needs to be said.


8 posted on 01/31/2005 7:12:05 PM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: churchillbuff

Stop the movie, turn up the lights, shoo out the thugs, fill out paperwork for a refund, or purchase of movie when available on DVD. Fill out paperwork, give home address, urine sample, saliva swab, and while we're at it, smile for the camera, cuz your butt ain't getting in this place no more.


9 posted on 01/31/2005 7:13:51 PM PST by JesseJane (KERRY: I have had conversations with leaders, yes, recently.That's not your business, it's mine.)
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To: churchillbuff

I have the distinct "pleasure" of knowing Coach Ken Carter and his son Damian. Like all movies, the truth is at variance with the facts.


10 posted on 01/31/2005 7:14:28 PM PST by pbear8 (Lord, Our Creator, how Excellent Thy Name is in all the nations...)
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To: pbear8

Do tell.


11 posted on 01/31/2005 7:18:34 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: pbear8

Do tell.


12 posted on 01/31/2005 7:18:52 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: GodfearingTexan

Sounds like a concerted effort to create a movie phenom.


13 posted on 01/31/2005 7:22:18 PM PST by DCPatriot (I don't do politically correct very well either.)
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To: churchillbuff
Other showings have been disrupted by shouts and threats from boozed up fans.

They sell booze in theaters?

14 posted on 01/31/2005 7:26:38 PM PST by silent_jonny (The Nightime Sniffling Sneezing Coughing Aching Stuffyhead Fever So You Can Freep Medicine)
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To: kenth
Gotta love those blue cities..

But only slightly blue.

Sacramento county: 171,569 for Bush, 175,725 for Kerry.

15 posted on 01/31/2005 7:31:44 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: conservative cat
Ken is a great self-promoter. The members of the team he benched have few good things to say. He did have them sign a contract but they thought he wasn't really interested in their grades, but in himself.

I liked Damien, I had him in a unique teaching situation for a couple of days. Dad wasn't all that nice to him (smacking his head, etc). Damian received a West Point appt via George Miller, but sadly, dropped out after one year. I think he could not handle the academics. Too bad.

Ken's local business foundered, he had a sporting goods store. But he managed to get this movie about himself made. On one occasion I was waiting to speak with him but he took care of everyone else (even those who came later) first. I think I was the wrong color.

16 posted on 01/31/2005 7:33:21 PM PST by pbear8 (Lord, Our Creator, how Excellent Thy Name is in all the nations...)
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To: pbear8
I have the distinct "pleasure" of knowing Coach Ken Carter and his son Damian. Like all movies, the truth is at variance with the facts.

That's a tease if ever there was one.... I hope you'll fill us in on the truth vs. fiction. I never heard of Coach Carter until the movie came out, so I have no reason to think what I watched was anything other than the truth.

(Other than the fact that Hollywood couldn't make a movie telling the truth if the fate of the world depended on it).

17 posted on 01/31/2005 7:34:27 PM PST by zlala
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To: kenth

bttt


18 posted on 01/31/2005 7:42:16 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: zlala
See my post #16.

Ken did his benching thing and then he called all the media to tell them what he had done. The kids thought he was more interested in all the PR than in them. Davis had just been elected Gov and he shows up at a game along with several local politicians looking for the camera. I know other teachers resented the situation (told me so) and thought his motives were suspect.

Several of the kids went on record in a recent Contra Costa Times article saying that things weren't as they were portrayed in the movie.

19 posted on 01/31/2005 7:50:00 PM PST by pbear8 (Lord, Our Creator, how Excellent Thy Name is in all the nations...)
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To: churchillbuff
Kids were beating up a security guard

They have security guards at the movie theatre!? Boy, I wish I lived in the big city.

20 posted on 01/31/2005 7:59:33 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: churchillbuff

This is why Sacramento needs a Midnight Basketball program.


;0)


21 posted on 01/31/2005 8:03:19 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: USNBandit

Thanks to Guliani, New York City is probably safer per capita than some small Red State towns.


22 posted on 01/31/2005 8:28:36 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: pbear8
Thank you for the info. I saw the movie this past Saturday. It sounds to me he did the right thing for the wrong reasons.

Years ago I sat on my local school board (in WA state). We were searching for a new superintendent and ended up hiring a man, who while he was the football coach, canceled the remaining season when his players broke their contract. In their contract they not only agreed to not drinking alcohol, but to not be at parties where alcohol was being consumed by minors.

His players were busted at a party one weekend and the season was canceled the following week. We liked that idea and that was one of the reasons we hired him.

23 posted on 01/31/2005 8:34:14 PM PST by zlala
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To: zlala
I can appreciate the actions of your coach more because he did what he had to do without calling in all the media. In Richmond High's case, the guys didn't really think that he cared about them, but about what they could do for him.

Was the movie any good?

24 posted on 01/31/2005 8:38:30 PM PST by pbear8 (Lord, Our Creator, how Excellent Thy Name is in all the nations...)
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To: pbear8
Well...the media did show up...but it was after the season was canceled and not because he called them 1st so he could grandstand.

I thought the movie was good with a few exceptions. I really liked the message. I always felt as a board member that we should expect more than "D" level work from our athletes. Sooooo that was exciting to see in a movie. I will say I left having lots of questions however. Unfortunately they'll never get answered.

25 posted on 01/31/2005 8:49:02 PM PST by zlala
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To: USNBandit

"They have security guards at the movie theatre!?"

Here in Medford, Oregon, the local Tinseltown Theater has ARMED security guards!

Why, I have no idea...

Ed


26 posted on 01/31/2005 9:18:10 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: churchillbuff

Bench clearing brawls in movie houses. Audience participation! Could this be the new Rocky Horror?


27 posted on 01/31/2005 9:26:41 PM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Progressives are just liberals with an Earl Scheib paintjob.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

Bring rocks in your pocket!


28 posted on 02/01/2005 1:11:10 AM PST by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: pbear8

My son took a group of friends (and his parents) to see this movie for his birthday. There was lots of "exhuberance" from the audience. The movie was so-so and predictable. My son already knows the drill-a tutor if grades seem marginal, withhold sports participation if more study time is needed. I thought that was a known strategy and was shocked that a movie could be made about it. I thought it made Black parents look dumb, look like they just want to go to sporting events and keep ambition at bay by playing victim.(like typical DUers)


29 posted on 02/01/2005 10:03:21 AM PST by dagnabit
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To: pbear8
I went to a junior high school in Staunton, Virginia - Shelburne Junior High - from 1970-1973 - 7th through 9th. We had a gym coach by the name of Hunter Talbot. I do not know much about his past - I believe he was ex Air Force. I know that he started at the school a few years before I got there. The school was on the west side of town, a rough area, and during the late sixties racial problems started rising up even in Staunton. Lots of fights before, during, and after school. What this coach did was start a sports program before and after school.

You usually get to school about 30-40 minutes before classes start. He would have the kids playing basketball in the gym before the first bell. In the afternoons, he started an intramarial program of what was in season - basketball, horseshoes, volleyball, etc. Kids could sign up as various teams, from the different grades, and play each other after school. He had a two-lose bracket system. You lost your first game, you got knocked down into the losers bracket. The next game you lost, you were knocked out. You had a champion of the winners bracket and one for the losers bracket. At the end, the two champions played each other in front of the whole school in the afternoon - as an assembly.

Racial tensions went down, fights went down. He figured, get these kids worked up they would be too tired to fight. Also, get them working together in teams and once they get to know each other, tensions would ease. He was right.

They should make a movie about him.

30 posted on 02/01/2005 10:18:34 AM PST by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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