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Dr. Ecstasy (NYT puff piece on hallucinogenic chemist)
New York Times ^ | 1/30/05 | DRAKE BENNETT

Posted on 01/30/2005 6:15:56 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

Ask some of our fighter pilots, bomber crews, Rangers, and Special Forces if they appreciate Dr Shulgin's "poisons", as well as how many of them are alive today because of them.

Ask many of the people who function normally in society who would be locked up in mental wards without the drugs they take every day. Chances are Dr Shulgin invented those drugs.

I can't help but mention the irony of your reply and your handle on this thread. So tell me, LPC, just where exactly do you draw the line between poison and prescription?


21 posted on 01/30/2005 7:23:18 PM PST by datura (Destroy The UN, the MSM, and China. The rest will fall into line once we get rid of these.)
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To: King Prout

For the record, I think that most of the drug laws are inneffective and a waste of money, the war on drugs is a failure. If people want to destroy their lives, that is their own business. However, there are ways to change the laws that do not resort to anarchy.


22 posted on 01/30/2005 7:24:42 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Timothy Leary did LSD over 200 times, I would imagine a whiff of a joint put him back in dreamland for a few hours.


23 posted on 01/30/2005 7:26:42 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

firearms have legitimate uses: extreme pacifists would not agree.

psychotropic drugs have no legitimate use: a goodly number of medical professionals and their patients, shrinks and their patients, and casual users would not agree.

depends upon with whom you speak.
I will remind you that ALCOHOL was once proscribed by the federal government in the form of a Constitutional Amendment. That made the proscription Law, but didn't make it right.

Good night.


24 posted on 01/30/2005 7:26:42 PM PST by King Prout (trolls survive through a form of gastroenterotic oroborosity, a brownian "perpepetual movement")
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To: John Lenin

"Timothy Leary did LSD over 200 times, I would imagine a whiff of a joint put him back in dreamland for a few hours."

I was once in the same room with Leary while he smoked pot a few years before he died, and he was just fine.


25 posted on 01/30/2005 7:36:35 PM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: wagglebee

There are ways to change the laws, and the benefits for society far outnumber the detriments. So why don't we change them? The prison industrial complex has too many addicts in places of authority to give up their drug of choice: power.

In every state where medical pot has been voted in by "the people", for instance, the Feds refuse to accept the will of the voters and arrests all involved. So just how do we implement a change in the laws again? From the rooftops, if necessary.


26 posted on 01/30/2005 7:36:40 PM PST by datura (Destroy The UN, the MSM, and China. The rest will fall into line once we get rid of these.)
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To: King Prout

In a free society what the heck is a "legitimate use?"


27 posted on 01/30/2005 7:41:33 PM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: adam_az

How long was it from his last trip ? LSD effects last for a good 7-10 years.


28 posted on 01/30/2005 7:43:01 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

"How long was it from his last trip ? LSD effects last for a good 7-10 years."

What effects?

That's a load of crap.


29 posted on 01/30/2005 7:43:38 PM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: adam_az

afaik: so long as you don't damage the person or property of an unwilling bystander with a possession or action, it should not be criminalized

as to "legitimate"???
hell, i don't know - that word has been misused by politicians and thought police for so long it has no meaning.


30 posted on 01/30/2005 7:47:44 PM PST by King Prout (trolls survive through a form of gastroenterotic oroborosity, a brownian "perpepetual movement")
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To: King Prout

"legitimate"

You used the word, too, and in a way that has no meaning.

Please explain why Shulgin should be in jail?

if anything, you made a case for him being lionized - not imprisoned. Yet you have expressed the opposite.


31 posted on 01/30/2005 7:49:54 PM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: King Prout

OOPS confused you with Wagglebee.

Sorry.


32 posted on 01/30/2005 7:51:04 PM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: adam_az

look at the thread history - I was making a counterargument against the Luddite Patent person, who used that word.


33 posted on 01/30/2005 7:51:07 PM PST by King Prout (trolls survive through a form of gastroenterotic oroborosity, a brownian "perpepetual movement")
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To: adam_az

s'ok ;)


34 posted on 01/30/2005 7:51:28 PM PST by King Prout (trolls survive through a form of gastroenterotic oroborosity, a brownian "perpepetual movement")
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To: King Prout

MUST BE THE DRUGS!

;)


35 posted on 01/30/2005 7:52:20 PM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: adam_az

ya mon!

funny, all things considered: I don't make recreational use of any drugs save caffeine and alcohol.


36 posted on 01/30/2005 7:53:47 PM PST by King Prout (trolls survive through a form of gastroenterotic oroborosity, a brownian "perpepetual movement")
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To: King Prout

I tried snorting crack once, but it got stuck in my nose.


37 posted on 01/30/2005 7:59:05 PM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: adam_az

Timothy Leary's dead?


38 posted on 01/30/2005 7:59:22 PM PST by Rex Anderson
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To: King Prout

It was especially painful because the straw diameter was so big!


39 posted on 01/30/2005 8:00:03 PM PST by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: adam_az

ah... so that's what happened


40 posted on 01/30/2005 8:00:10 PM PST by King Prout (trolls survive through a form of gastroenterotic oroborosity, a brownian "perpepetual movement")
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