Posted on 01/29/2005 3:57:17 PM PST by Jordi
"Blackhawk is bad design. So many have crashed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Something wrong with it."
lots of other things have crashed also not just black hawks;
humvees, tanks, ted kennedys IQ
alot of human error is involed in the crashes
look at ted kennedy for example
Whenever the President is flying, there are actually several identical choppers flown together for security reasons.
Each of these has to have a backup so that there are always enough choppers ready to fly at a moment's notice. There are probably a few extra choppers for training purposes.
I'm sure they have both had accidents. I just happened to remember the Agusta incident from reading a book by someone who worked for Donald Trump.
Well, that figures.
Red States : 2
Blue States: 0
The President's helo is Marine One. Don't know why they get the job as opposed to the Army. The AF gets to fly the big boys (Air Force One and Air Force Two)
"Blackhawk is bad design. So many have crashed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Something wrong with it."
Actually, it's worse than that......the Blackhawk already had it's chance as Marine One. They had some outfitted to become the presidential helicopter......and one of them crashed in testing......so they stuck with what they had.
Sikorsky should have seen this one coming - they had their chance already.
I cannot say I oppose this change, since the European nations are two of America's indefatigable allies - England and Italy. Viva Blair! Viva Berlusconi! FWIW, "outsourcing of well-paying American jobs" is a political myth that the Dems wish to continue to propagate for their own gain.
The Army hasn't had anything to do with flying the Presidential helicopter since they dumped a VH-3 into the Potomac and Ford assigned the mission exclusively to the Marine Corps.
Pure unadulterated Bravo Sierra. Stick to what you know, chaplain.
More pure unadulterated Bravo Sierra. Stick to selling fertilizer.
"Sen. Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut Democrat, said the decision was "outrageously wrong" because Sikorsky had vowed to build a helicopter that was "100 pct made in America."
Wonder if he had anything to say when the US company Haliburton received gov't contracts?
The Army was removed from the shared mission of transporting the President via helicopter after dumping a VH-3 into the Potomac and Gerald Ford permanently assigned the mission to the Marine Corps.
Don't tell that to the Marines at HMX-1 who fly and maintain those VH-60Ns or the President when he's onboard one of them.
The May 1993 VH-60 crash was on a post maintenance check flight of a bird that was already part of the fleet.
When is the last time the president has been aboard one?
Bush I? Clinton? I really don't remember....... They gave up on them (for the pres.) when they had the crash. The remainder are still in the VIP squadron, but I don't think they let the president fly........(good enough for congressmen though).
The Army got fired when it comes to flying the President around in helicopters. They were fired by the President at that time, President Ford. Of course, that's not how the history books reflect the "mission re-alignment"...
The Army and Marines used to split the duties in flying the President around, until the Army put one of its helicopters of Presidential squadron in the drink on a non-transport mission...
Now the Marines fly the President and that is why the US Navy is buying/managing the program...
dvwjr
Yes, that is correct. The Marines are a Department of the U.S. Navy, and being an ex-swab, I was quickly reminded that yes, that's true, the Men's Department! LOL!
RB
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