Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

'JOHN316' License Plate Deep-Sixed by State Agency
agapepress ^ | January 27, 2005 | Allie Martin

Posted on 01/28/2005 6:47:11 AM PST by little jeremiah

AgapePress) - A Vermont man has sued that state's Department of Motor Vehicles after his application to have a personalized license plate with a Christian message was rejected.

Last April, Shawn Byrne submitted an application for a personalized plate inscribed with "JOHN316." In May, he received a letter from the DMV informing him that the inscription was "deemed to be a combination that refers to deity and has been denied based on that reason." On appeal, an administrative law judge upheld the DMV's position because the statute governing the license plate program prohibits combinations that refer to "deity," among other things.

Byrne has now sued the state over the matter. He is represented by attorney Anthony Duprey of Middlebury, who is affiliated with the Alliance Defense Fund. Duprey contends the state's position is clearly unconstitutional.

"The state of Vermont has created a forum whereby they allow people to make expression within this license plate forum," the attorney says. "But they said if you happen to have a religious perspective, a Christian perspective, then you need not apply. They're discriminating as to what sort of speech people can put on the license plate -- and I think that's very troubling."

According to Duprey, DMV officials have approved other plates that use names and numbers referring to religion. But those officials, he says, have "selectively censored" his client's expression. "When officials suppress speech because they don't like the message of the plate or the viewpoint it expresses, that's illegal discrimination," he says.

The attorney points out another aspect that he sees as discriminatory. "What's important in my client's life is his relationship with Jesus Christ," he explains. "[But] the state said 'Well, we don't want to hear that -- , we don't want you to express that.' But if you've got somebody [for whom] bowling is their big thing in life and that's what they live for, then you're free to put it on the vehicle."

Duprey says he intends to make sure the DMV "will no longer be able to discriminate against anyone based upon their religious views."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: adf; churchandstate; dmv; freedomeofreligion; freedomofspeech; freespeech; licenseplate; repression; vermont
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-51 next last
I'd call this repression of free speech, repression of freedom of religion, and totalitarian jack booted thugism.
1 posted on 01/28/2005 6:47:11 AM PST by little jeremiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

2 posted on 01/28/2005 6:49:18 AM PST by killjoy (War is not the answer, simply part of the solution)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

Well, I agree. I think there are some things that shouldn't be allowed on plates, but this is clearly not offensive.


3 posted on 01/28/2005 6:49:27 AM PST by TheBigB (Existential void where prohibited.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lindykim; DirtyHarryY2K; Siamese Princess; Ed Current; Grampa Dave; Luircin; gonow; John O; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

Can't have any mention of God, in any way, shape, or form, anywhere except - you guessed it - in our closets.

Does anyone else hear the theme music of "The Twilight Zone"?

So many people read stuff like this and think something like this: "Well, that's in Vermont; we know they're loony there." "Well, I wouldn't put a Bible verse number on my license plate so that doesn't affect me." "Guy's probably a religious fanatic anyway." "Things can't get any worse."

Etc Etc. Problem is, things are getting worse minute by minute. What are each of us going to do about it?

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


4 posted on 01/28/2005 6:51:22 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes are what make the world go round.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

In PA, there is someone who has "JESUS" for his tag -

With the old plates - it said right above it -

You have a friend in

JESUS


5 posted on 01/28/2005 6:52:23 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

Good luck to him. In the land of Jeffords and Levy, now a colony of the rotten big apple like south Florida, insanity will always prevail.


6 posted on 01/28/2005 6:52:51 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

I'll bet if some Muhammed wanted plates that read "JIHAD" it would be just fine.


7 posted on 01/28/2005 6:52:55 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (GO PATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: killjoy

is that really a legit fl license plate???


8 posted on 01/28/2005 6:52:57 AM PST by philsfan24
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah
One wonders if there are any Vermont license plates -- vanity or otherwise -- that contain the numbers "666".

I bet there are, and I also bet that the State Government of Vermont isn't concerned about them in the least.

9 posted on 01/28/2005 6:55:18 AM PST by chs68
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2banana

those werent real license plates. everyone had one those back in the day. in pa, you dont need a license plate on the front of your car so everyone started loading theres up with the Jesus plate.


10 posted on 01/28/2005 6:55:20 AM PST by philsfan24
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

mee, too PING


11 posted on 01/28/2005 6:56:11 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

That's just silly. As far as I'm concerned you ought to be able to put anything that's not obscene on your plate, including religious messages.


12 posted on 01/28/2005 6:59:16 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2banana

In Texas and New Mexico that wouldn't be unusual...since Jesus is also a male Mexican name, pronounced slightly different of course.

I hope this guy pushes this to the limit....this kind of stuff has gotten way out of control. It seems we've lost all sense of reason and tolerance.


13 posted on 01/28/2005 7:01:24 AM PST by TexasTaysor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah
Guess they would be apoplectic about this Texas plate.


14 posted on 01/28/2005 7:04:57 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TexasTaysor

My texan brother-in-law lives in New Mexico has a personalized New Mexico plate that says GBTEXAS.


15 posted on 01/28/2005 7:06:24 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: 2banana

Yeah. I PA you can buy plates for the front of your car-- since we do not have front plates here, only back plates issued by the state.

Lots of people have the "You have a friend in JESUS" tage. Nobody's been arrested yet but this state is redder than Philly would lead you to believe!


16 posted on 01/28/2005 7:09:43 AM PST by Conservatrix ("He's a barf." --- Sophia T., Age 4, on John Sawed-Off Baldrick "I have a cunning plan" Kerry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: TexasTaysor

It seems we've lost all sense of reason and tolerance.

It is amazing to me how much intolerece abounds in the name of tolerence


17 posted on 01/28/2005 7:10:12 AM PST by Phrostie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: philsfan24

it's just "A55 RGY" what could possibly be wrong?

:)


18 posted on 01/28/2005 7:10:31 AM PST by kpp_kpp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: philsfan24
is that really a legit fl license plate???

Yes:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/assorgy1.html

19 posted on 01/28/2005 7:11:18 AM PST by killjoy (War is not the answer, simply part of the solution)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah
Inmates favorite slogan


20 posted on 01/28/2005 7:13:41 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-51 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson