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To: Southack

Gun bans in individual townships are annoying; but my main point is about the loss of gun rights at the federal level. There are plenty of "common sense" restrictions on the ability of individuals to purchase guns, and on the types of guns they are allowed to purchase. Most of these did not exist before the 1960's, and none of them existed before the 20th century. There are now age restrictions, restrictions on buying guns across state lines, and restrictions on ordering guns through the mail. You can't buy firearms without going through a background check to make sure you haven't been convicted of a felony or domestic violence (another "common sense" restriction-----I mean, who is going to defend the 2nd amendment rights of somebody with a domestic violence rap on their record?) There are entire classes of firearms that are now banned. If I knew for a fact that no more rights would be taken away, I could probably deal with it; but I have a feeling that somewhere down the line we'll be taken the way of our enlightened neighbors in Canada, the UK, Australia, etc. We've already taken the first steps.


107 posted on 01/25/2005 10:25:08 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Junior_G
"There are now age restrictions, restrictions on buying guns across state lines, and restrictions on ordering guns through the mail. You can't buy firearms without going through a background check to make sure you haven't been convicted of a felony or domestic violence..."

That's too broad of a statement. You *can* buy guns across state lines. You *can* buy guns through the mail. You *can* buy guns without a background check, too. Legally.

Gun shows, for instance. Estate sales. Classified ads. Private sales of guns require no background check, no backdoor government registration of a new gun owner.

Likewise, any firearm made in 1898 or before, or any modern made *copy* of an 1898 weapon or earlier, can be sold through the mail, across state lines, and with no background checks.

So you can buy all of the 1898 Mauser sniper rifles and Winchester repeaters that you care to own. You can buy 1898 six shot pistols, or modern made copies of those weapons, too.

Bankers (i.e. lenders), can even repossess modern firearms, should the debtor default, without a background check.

108 posted on 01/25/2005 10:42:27 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Junior_G
"my main point is about the loss of gun rights at the federal level. ... I have a feeling that somewhere down the line we'll be taken the way of our enlightened neighbors in Canada, the UK, Australia, etc. We've already taken the first steps."

We've already taken the first steps to roll all of that back. The federal Assault Weapons Ban is dead. D E A D. Dead.

The federal ban against arming commercial pilots is likewise dead.

We're voting on new bills this year to prevent the gun-banners from suing our gun manufacturers out of business (needed tort reform).

We've rolled back, federally, the various state, county, and city anti-gun laws that were being used to arrest gun owners from merely driving through certain areas.

...And state after state (now 46 out of 50) has passed CCW laws in our favor!

109 posted on 01/25/2005 10:47:58 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Junior_G

"I mean, who is going to defend the 2nd amendment rights of somebody with a domestic violence rap on their record?"

You may wish to rethink this one.. for there is a gentleman in the county where I live, that lost his right to own firearms for yelling at his wife. The court considered it domestic violence...


263 posted on 01/27/2005 9:24:11 PM PST by Refinersfire
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