Forward by Benny Hinn.
Posted on 01/21/2005 2:42:01 PM PST by samsonite
Then, if a person actually listens to what they are saying, it becomes obvious that they may read from the bible every once in a while, but they are not preaching the word of God.
It really bothers me because a lot of people become "innoculated" from the gospel because of these guys. They buy into their ministries and then after they realize the TBN guys are a fraud they will never even listen to anyone legitimate. They really will have a special place in hell.
It also bothers me that my pastor, Charles Stanley, appears on TBN. Only his taped sermons appear on the network and he never visits the TBN set and appears with the Crouches, Kenneth Hagin, Joyce Meyer, Hinn or Morris Cerullo, but I still think it damages his ministry.
That's a good question. I don't pretend to understand everything in the book of Revelations or Isaiah, for example. There is considerable disagreement between Jews and Christians on the prophet Isaiah, which is well beyond the subject of this thread, and greater thinkers than I have tackled them. But you're right. No there is no fixed time within biblical prophetic works. Those prophecies generally refer to the time when the kingdom of the Lord is at hand. No one knows when that time will come. Some people, of course, believe it is real soon now. No one, though, can say with exact certainty as to when.
However, Hinn does give time frames. He predicts recent events, but somehow none of his followers seem to remember his false predictions and always excuse his false teachings. Some time during the 1990s, for example, Hinn predicted Castro would die and there'd be a Christian revival in Cuba. Another said that by the year 2000 all homosexuals would be punished by the Lord with death. Not in the way one might think, either: but to be consumed by fire. Not long after September 11th he predicted that some time between 2002 and 2004 Oral Roberts and Jimmy Swaggart were to both pass away in close succession, and after that there was supposed to have been a terrorist attack on this country that would make 911 look like peanuts. This is one of the predictions that I saw him make personally at one of his events I attended. He clearly indicates that the Lord is speaking through him, that these events are ordained to come about.
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The life-changing power of Jesus Christ impacted many hundreds of thousands of lives on this special evening, and anticipation is high for an even greater move of God on Saturday and Sunday.
Translation: come back tomorrow for more miracles.
From the DPF document: The longer I study God's Word, the more convinced I am that a Christian should not be sick.
This is what Hinn teaches: prosperity and health.
I have read websites with false prophecies by Benny and have issues with his style, but I believe God can use anyone to draw His children unto Him. I guess it might be more fruitful to pray that our Heavenly Father would correct any false doctines in the minds of those who are touched by the Holy Spirit through his teaching.
I guess Hinn is not a good enough con man to refrain from giving time frames, although if he is a lurker here, we just helped him with that. As an agnostic, I could care less what sort of religious doctrine Hinn and his televangelist ilk promulgate, but I think that people give money to televangelists for the same reason I chose to spend my money on professional wrestling: it's all entertainment. I look at Benny Hinn the same way I look at any musician, actor, or sports star. Some people just like their act.
I think one of the reasons folks go to his shows is to watch him bowl people over like ninepins. In that sense, you're absolutely right.
"[...] bowl people over like ninepins."
LOL!
If I say that I believe in God, I figure that I had better not take liberties with that activity:
Romans 14:4
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
It's up to Him to see to the fraud or anything else that is untoward. If we are smart we will fear Him enough to keep it buttoned.
Proverbs 9:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
I couldn't have said it any better, that is exactly what I witnessed!
Do you really imagine that God is so stupid, insignificant or powerless that He cannot arrange to vindicate His own Word and see to it that the false prophets or charltons eat dirt?
When a crowd of children, likely educated by their parents' opinions ran after Elijah taunting him with, "Go up, you bald head.." God confirmed Elijah's status very readily. Read the story at 2 Kings 2:23.
To the children and their parents Elijah wasn't much but God isn't happy with even little children mocking the least of His servants. Take a hint.
Don't like him? Too bad. Don't approve, ask the man's Master to bring correction but for the sake of your own well being have the sense to honor God's word which is what brought us morality and integrity in the first place.
It's not a matter of liking him - he's just not preaching that word of God. Paul was very vocal when he saw issues - he didn't wait for God to smite anyone.
Matthew 24:23-25 (New International Version)
23At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect–if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.
Mark 13:21-23 (New International Version)
21At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ[a]!’ or, ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it. 22For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect–if that were possible. 23So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time.
2 Thessalonians 2:8-10 (New International Version)
8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
I will believe he is of God when a blind man receives his sight, or an amputee regains his lost limb, or someone with Down's Syndrome is healed.
never in the history of these "healers" has an amputee regained a lost limb,, why would amputees be anymore hard for God to heal?, never has a person with an eyeball missing grown another one,, that word of knowlage stuff is bologna too, ignorant people believe that crap
No one can stop you.
Like I said to you before, I truly feel very Sorry for You.
And...Please be Very Careful, as it seems that You are actually Worshipping and IN LOVE with Hinn and NOT The LORD JESUS.
IDOLATRY of any kind is a SIN that will Destroy YOU.
DENIAL and DELUSION are Very Dangerous ground to be standing on...SEEK THE LORD WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART then...
Take it to The LORD in serious Prayer, ask HIM to search Your Heart...be Willing to Hear HIS Voice concerning this matter.
When You finally come to know the TRUTH about Hinn, Your Eyes will be Opened to his LIES, You are going to need real Counselling and for Your sake, I hope that you are able to get it.
I will not engage in any further discussions with You or the other Benny Hinnites on FR boards.
We are Not to engage in Useless, Fruitless arguements.
LIke the most rabid mullahs and imans.
What an ignorant remark. Equating mullahs with Christian pastors is the height of ignorance.
Thousands of Chrstian pastors have been murdered for their faith at the hands of Communists and Muslims...and your remark shows you are unaware of that.
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