Posted on 01/17/2005 9:04:26 PM PST by SmithL
YOKOSUKA NAVAL BASE, Japan For many servicemembers, little inspires more dread than the voice of a superior officer beckoning them to stand front and center for a lecture on uniform standards.
But deviating from those standards is part of the job until later this year for 100 Yokosuka sailors from Commander Fleet Activities Japan and Commander Naval Forces Japan who are wear-testing four new uniforms for the chief of Naval Operations Task Force Uniform initiative.
Along with other volunteers from Naval bases worldwide, the Yokosuka sailors will report their likes, dislikes or comments they get from fellow sailors about the uniforms, according to Chief Petty Officer Deborah Simmons, a military representative for the task force.
Simmons was at Yokosukas Fleet Recreation Center on Friday morning, with members of the Navy Clothing and Textile Research Facility, to distribute the uniforms for the six-month test period.
The Navy is testing two variants: one service and one working uniform. Yokosuka is testing the service variant, while Atsugi Naval Air Facility is testing the working variant, a blue and gray camouflage uniform sailors received Tuesday.
Last weeks uniform distributions were part of a process that began more than a year ago in response to concerns from sailors about uniform regulations and requirements, a Navy news release stated. In 2003, a survey of more than 40,000 Navy personnel found that sailors E-6 and below were the Navy group least satisfied with their current service uniforms. Some reasons given for the dissatisfaction included perceived impracticality of white uniforms, unflattering and non-functional designs, unprofessional appearance in comparison to other services and requirements for seasonal change.
The current Navy service uniforms for sailors E-6 and below feature an all-white, short-sleeved shirt worn during summer months and an all-black, long-sleeved shirt for winter. The test uniforms the Yokosuka sailors received to wear instead are designed to be worn year-round.
The sailors received four uniform sets, designated A, B, C and D. Shirts in each set are either khaki or gray, and have rank insignia either sewn on or pinned to the collar. Men received four pairs of navy-blue pants, while women received two pairs of pants and two skirts. Wear-test participants also received an identification card to be carried whenever they are in the new uniforms as proof they are participating in the task force tests and a guide with photos and descriptions of how the variables may be put together. The guide gives the sailors specific instructions on care and contains a schedule of which uniform set to wear each day, said Donna Zlotnick, a senior clothing designer at the Navy Clothing and Textile Research Facility.
The user guide gives them everything from uniform configurations to pictures on how the uniforms look, Zlotnick said. The schedule in calendar form helps ensure the sets get even wear, she said.
I personally think it is an exciting time, said Senior Chief Petty Officer Greg Vidaurri, a Navy Career Counselor and Yokosukas point man for the task force. We have about 229 years of history in our uniforms right now, and a multitude of uniforms, he said. By having one service uniform you can wear year-round, I think it will cut down on space, time and maintenance.
He said he was glad the sailors will be involved with the uniform decision.
I think its nice that our sailors have a voice in what their uniforms are going to be, instead of someone just telling them this is what you are wearing, he said.
Petty Officer 1st Class Gabriel Batiancila, one of the wear-testers, also is happy sailors are getting input.
On first impression, he said he likes the new uniforms because he feels theyre more professional. As for color preference between the gray and khaki shirts, he said: I think the gray looks great, but I like them both. I am looking forward to the day when we actually walk around and wear this thing.
Designer Zlotnick predicted that most of the participating Yokosuka sailors would be wearing the test uniforms by the end of the month.
Petty Officer 2nd Class Tomika Halloway said shes looking forward to wearing her test sets, adding that she especially likes that the new female overblouse is not tucked in.
The uniforms are really nice, I feel more feminine in them [not]having to worry about tucking your shirt in, she said. Her favorite variation, she added, is the khaki shirt with collar insignia. You dont have to worry about changing patches every time you advance, said Halloway. You can just change collar devices, its more convenient.
The test uniforms fit wonderfully and theyre comfortable, said Petty Officer 1st Class Shelly Griffith. I think its going to be a lot easier to take care of them.
She said she wouldnt miss the old uniforms.
The whites are see-through, the blues fade out, and we have a lot more uniform items that you have to constantly replace, giving junior personnel a lot of expenses that they really dont need to incur, she said.
Petty Officer 1st Class Linda Wood said her preference lies with the B and C uniform sets the ones requiring pants instead of skirts.
I have always favored the pants (with the current uniform), she said. Its going to be different wearing the skirts, because [now] skirts are optional but it will put me into the skirts now. Every other day, Ill be in a skirt, so that should be different. But I am still looking forward to it.
Task Force Uniform representative Simmons dismisses criticism that the new service uniforms look too much like the Marine Corps uniform or too much like the current utility uniform.
Dont pre-judge the uniform until you see the sailors in them, she advised. See the people in them, talk to them, see how they feel.
...and they certainly don't.
Didn't the Navy try something similar to this doodah back in the 70s under Zumwalt? Gad....they look like a cross between Marines and Coast Guardsmen, no offense intended to either branch. What the hell is wrong with looking like sailors?????
WTF is this crap?
Every couple of years they start fiddling with the uniforms. You always hear that some sort of BDU will be the result, but when they are unveiled, it's just another lame variant of dungarees.
I don't understand why the Navy is so damn resistant to BDUs. They are comfortable, low-maintenance, and present a good appearance. And plenty of sailors already wear BDUs.
One looks like an Air Force uniform and and one looks like a Marine uniform. My sailors were proud to wear their Cracker Jacks. What happened to tradition?
I served in the 80s, and was pretty satisfied with the uniforms we had then. The salt & pepper was fine for summer wear, and the Johnny Cash for winter. Of all my uniforms, the only items I have kept since leaving the service in '88 are the peacoat and the dress blue jumper or "Cracker Jacks". In my opinion, that uniform is the image of how an enlisted sailor should look.
When I was in the nav from 75 to 81, we called our uniforms the ice cream man suits. Sadly, I never got to wear the cracker jack uniform.
I was thinking of something like this.
Its worse than that. There are elements of Army and Air Force. Just about every service except Navy. The uniform is horrid, its disturbing, it is a bureaucracy produced chimera.
Chimera
1. Greek Mythology. A fire-breathing she-monster usually represented as a composite of a lion, goat, and serpent.
2. An imaginary monster made up of grotesquely disparate parts.
They look like zoomies to me.
The Navy Uniforms for junior enlisted should be: Crackerjacks/Summer Whites for those occasions that require some degree of formality.
BDUs and coveralls for everything else.
The Uniform Board can cram dungarees and all the recent variants up their collective arses.
JMO. Not that a chief would know anything.
Off We go.....into the halls of montezuma, as the caissons go rolling along. Semper paratus, mac.
And that, of course, should *always* be the primary consideration when designing a uniform. Ya gotta feel more feminine.
"Didn't the Navy try something similar to this doodah back in the 70s under Zumwalt? Gad....they look like a cross between Marines and Coast Guardsmen, no offense intended to either branch. What the hell is wrong with looking like sailors?????"
Indeed they did. I was Active USN from 1972 to 1976. When I went through basic training in 1972 they still issued the old "Cracker Jack" style Blue and White jumpers for dress uniforms except in tropical climates. However, the work uniform was changed to an ugly blue type of fatigues instead of the classical navy dungarees. As soon as I could I ditched the fatigues and only wore "Sea Farers" which was a type of dungaree (bell bottom blue jeans and light blue shirt). By the time I left active duty in 1976 they had stopped issuing the classical "Jumper" dress uniforms and had gone to a double brested uniform like that of a chief petty officer. It apparently didn't last very long because it was discarded by the eighties.
I actually like the look of the these new uniforms, although they look like either Marines or Air Force. I can tell you that having to wear that all white uniform is a major pain in the backside - it was really bad when it was cotton and not synthetic. I think a uniform change is a good idea. What would a Class "A" uniform look like?
4- "Didn't the Navy try something similar to this doodah back in the 70s under Zumwalt? Gad....they look like a cross between Marines and Coast Guardsmen, no offense intended to either branch. What the hell is wrong with looking like sailors?????"
Good memory. Perhaps earlier, in the 60's. The sailors didn't like the new uniforms, and after much expense, and trouble, the Navy went back to the old uniforms, and everyone was much happier.
Try keeping a set of dress whites clean and pressed for liberty in any tropical port. Gobs have to carry chalk to cover up the dirt. No pocked except a watch pocket to keep money in, then try sticking you sweaty finger in that pocket, the belt and top of the pocket will be filthy, so out comes the chalk.
The Air Force switched to the "airline" blues after I got out, and to be painfully blunt, I would be EMBARASSED to wear the current blues. They are UNMILITARY, UGLY and do NOT look Air Force IN THE LEAST! That three-button sport coat looks IBM, not USAF. Merrill McPeak should burn in Hell for what he did to my Air Force, and the alleged genius who's foisting this travesty of a uniform on the Navy should be handcuffed to McPeak on the trip downstairs!
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