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Apple Macs: Objects of devotion
BBC ^ | 1/13/05

Posted on 01/13/2005 12:28:42 PM PST by ambrose

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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

And what happens when the video chip blows? Or the modem, how about the ethernet card?

Back to the factory?


61 posted on 01/13/2005 1:25:51 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: ambrose
Typical MAC user:

Just kidding...

When the rumor about the cheapie MAC came out I finally figured I would buy one but the damn thing doesn't look like you could add anything to it and where's the 360k drive?

If I could build an Apple like a clone PC, now that would be awesome. Yeah, a dual G5 clone, now that's the stuff. Until that happy day arrives I'll live in my PC world where I've NEVER had a virus, knock on wood, in over 20 years of using various DOS or Windows computers.

62 posted on 01/13/2005 1:26:20 PM PST by Lx (If dolphins are so smart, why do they live in igloos?)
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To: whd23

LOL!!! So sad, yet true.


63 posted on 01/13/2005 1:26:32 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: papertyger
>Mac users would be the "Harley" riders


64 posted on 01/13/2005 1:28:08 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: ambrose
You can get a big not-so-ugly Mac if you need "slots". Given the features of the new $499 Mac, the question becomes, "What kind of expansion do you want to do that you can't do by plugging something into the USB 2.0 or Firewire port? It already comes with a decent graphics card and room for memory. What else are you trying to add?
65 posted on 01/13/2005 1:28:14 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: ambrose

Connect it to a monitor, keyboard and mouse. You don't even need Apple's own MKM to make it work. Whatever you have lying around will do.


66 posted on 01/13/2005 1:28:30 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mental

I think Mac users also tend to gravitate towards the Nintendo Gamecube.


67 posted on 01/13/2005 1:29:11 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Apple Works is even better than MS Office. You've got a full set of cool integrated software for every application on OSX Panther. What more would you need?


68 posted on 01/13/2005 1:31:23 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: saquin
I'm not gonna denigrate someone else's choice.

Nor am I. I have a couple of each and then some. I'd have to slap myself around constantly.

Bigots are bigots, no matter what they are bigoted about. And bigotry is usually a sure sign of ignorance.

69 posted on 01/13/2005 1:31:55 PM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: ambrose

Have been a life-long PC user (does my Commodore 64 count?) but recently had two straight duds from Dell. Switched to a beautiful but expensive Powerbook. Three months later I am still figuring out how to use the damn thing. Once I figure out how some feature works, however, it tends to work a hell of a lot better than my PC did. Might switch back to a PC if cost became a real issue (e.g. need to buy a half-dozen for an office) but I would make sure that I uninstalled IE on every single one of them. Mozilla rocks.


70 posted on 01/13/2005 1:32:10 PM PST by Labrax
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To: Question_Assumptions
If the answer is "Games", then that one word answer will be sufficient.

That would about sum it up for me. If I could find the realistic flight sims and the military strategy games I'm used to running on WinXP I'd consider switching to Mac. Back in the late 80s-early 90s that would have been possible. Not anymore.

71 posted on 01/13/2005 1:32:55 PM PST by Denver Ditdat (Ronald Reagan belongs to the ages now, but we preferred it when he belonged to us.)
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To: Bigh4u2

Such failures are very rare. In using computers since the Apple II and the first IBM PC (cassette version), I've only had one such "blow" (modem card).

Yes, in that rare case it's back to the factory - just like a notebook computer, or a great many desktop machines which also have nearly everything on the motherboard.

You're stretching for a complaint.


72 posted on 01/13/2005 1:33:42 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Question_Assumptions

Here is a simple question for all to answer why when comparing Apple to PCs'.
Which of these systems would you rather have?

Apple G5
Dual 2.5GHZ Processors
1 Gig of DDR400 RAM
160 Gig 7200RPM Hard Drive
ATI 9800XT Video Card with 256MB of RAM
8X DVD-R/CD-RW
Apple 20in LCD Monitor
Keyboard, Mouse and Operating System

$4419.00 (Price from the Apple Store)

PC

Enlight Mid-Tower Case
Fortron 500watt Power Supply
AMD Athlon 64 4000+ Processor
Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe Motherboard
2 GIG of Geil DDR400 RAM
ATI Radeon 9800 PRO Video Card with 256MB of RAM
2 X Western Digital Raptor SATA 74Gig 10,000 RPM Hard Drives
1 x 200gig Maxtor IDE 7200RPM 8MB Cache Hard Drive for Storage
Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum Sound Card
Lite-On 16X Dual Layer DVD-R,DVD+R,DVD+9R, CD-RW
Lite-On 16X DVD-ROM
Floppy Drive
Viewsonic 20.1 in LCD Monitor
Windows XP Pro
Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse

$3383.25 (Prices Newegg.com)

Of course the PC will run Circles around the MAC, but every MAC user will still prefer to pay over $1000.00 more for the MAC


73 posted on 01/13/2005 1:35:38 PM PST by Wooly
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
If they were giving them away for free, I wouldn't take one. In fact, I'd like to throw mine out the window.

What, in particular, bothers you about your Mac?

74 posted on 01/13/2005 1:35:44 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: papertyger

"If we were talking about motorcycles instead of computers, Mac users would be the "Harley" riders, and the critics would be getting their little weenie asses kicked for offering unsolicited opinions."

Please don't insult us HD guys. The HD is a low-tech machine for people who like to tinker with their motor and customize the bike. It has tons of aftermarket add-ons. I would say that a generic PC better represents the HD crowd. We build our own computers from parts.

A Mac would be a model that doesn't have many modifications to make. It would have cutsie colors and lots of bells and whistles. It wouldn't have very many aftermarket parts available. It would be way overpriced. It wouldn't be as versatile as other bikes. I'm thinking a BMW sport bike or maybe a Kawasaki Ninja 600 would be much closer.


75 posted on 01/13/2005 1:37:42 PM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: ctdonath2

"You're stretching for a complaint."

Not really. Just replying to a flame.

Personally, if I could afford one (or someone gave me one) I would probably use it, even if only for experimenting!

Like I said earlier. I have a few different 'emulators' and didn't care much for the graphics.

It was probably just a shortfall of the emulator software itself, but still, not impressed.

I'm always open to experimenting and if I'm convinced I probably would switch.

I was a 'PC' tech for years and switching over to MAC would be a big step for me. But, you never know.


76 posted on 01/13/2005 1:37:44 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Question_Assumptions

One criticism I have of the thing is that there are only two USB ports. Potential uses for USB include external drives, printers, the microphone/audio-in, mouse, keyboard. Two more (or four more) wouldn't fit on the back, so for the sake of aesthetics, only two were provided (why not four more on the side?). Of course one can use a hub, but where's that vaunted mac elegance in that?


77 posted on 01/13/2005 1:38:58 PM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: whd23

You needed a language warning for that IMHO...

Do Not Curse and S*** and D*** are not good either.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1070896/posts

Keep it clean please...


78 posted on 01/13/2005 1:39:36 PM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: goldstategop

The Mac mini is extremely interesting, but let's be honest about the PC: right now it's transitioning from tower to laptop, SFF, and HTPC.

Now if only I wasn't a poor college student, I'd pick up not only a Mac mini with a RAM upgrade, but Sharp's 32'' TV.

Ah, to be able to buy gadgets...


79 posted on 01/13/2005 1:39:47 PM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: Wooly

" Which of these systems would you rather have? "

I'd spend about $800 on a good Dell and buy an antique Triumph motorcycle with the remaining cash.


80 posted on 01/13/2005 1:39:57 PM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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