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Hebrew name for US "Lands of the Covenant" remains mystery
IMRA ^ | 1-12-05

Posted on 01/12/2005 5:00:05 AM PST by SJackson

Hebrew name for US "Lands of the Covenant" remains mystery Aaron Lerner Date: 11 January 2005

The United States is called "Lands of the Covenant" (Artzot Habrit) in Hebrew.

It is commonly thought that this name was given in order to avoid confusion with the Hebrew name for the United Nations.

IMRA asked Israel Radio's "Moment of Hebrew" program for the source of the name.

They find that the term appears in Hebrew papers as early as 1857 - in the Hamagid L'Israel weekly.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1857; artzothabrit; hebrew; landsofthecovenant
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1 posted on 01/12/2005 5:00:07 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson; Alouette

Is this true?


2 posted on 01/12/2005 5:04:36 AM PST by Red Badger (And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you FReep!........)
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To: SJackson

Maybe because that is where Indiana Jones brought the Arc??


3 posted on 01/12/2005 5:05:14 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (A joke is a very serious thing.)
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To: SJackson

Interesting.... I wonder if anyone here has more on this.


4 posted on 01/12/2005 5:06:05 AM PST by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: SJackson

Maybe it would be more liberally translated: Lands of the Constitution.


5 posted on 01/12/2005 5:08:22 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Red Badger

Well this fits in nicely with Latter Rain theology.


6 posted on 01/12/2005 5:08:33 AM PST by Diva
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To: Junior

Yeah, what Junior said. Sounds much better than Land of the Goyim.


7 posted on 01/12/2005 5:11:12 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: Diva
Latter Rain theology

Unknown to me. Please explain......

8 posted on 01/12/2005 5:14:34 AM PST by Red Badger (And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you FReep!........)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
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9 posted on 01/12/2005 5:17:25 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: SJackson

Could this mean the covenant the US has always had with/about Israel? Our founding fathers were Pro-Israel


10 posted on 01/12/2005 5:21:07 AM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: SJackson

That is because we are considered those of the other 12 tribes that have vanished. The namd "Jew" comes from Judah which was a tribe of Israel. All Jews are Israelites, but not all Israelites are Jews.

Read the mention of the croniclers (sp) in the Declaration of Arbroath by Robert the Bruce. They came from there thru Sythia, Ibernia and up to Ireland and then across to the main Isle.


11 posted on 01/12/2005 5:21:48 AM PST by crz
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To: Damifino; SJackson
My Brown-Driver-Briggs Lexicon render Heb. brit as covenant and treaty and gives constitutio as the Latin equivalent with diatheke as the Greek.

Check out http://www.britam.org for some work by Orthodox Jews who see more than a coincidence in the name.

12 posted on 01/12/2005 5:28:10 AM PST by yatros from flatwater
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To: TexasTaysor
Could this mean the covenant the US has always had with/about Israel? Our founding fathers were Pro-Israel

Pro Israel? Did Israel as a country or territory exist in the 1790's? I know the founders were very isolationist, warning against ANY foreign entanglements.

13 posted on 01/12/2005 5:30:21 AM PST by Al Gator
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To: SJackson; All

Indeed, in Hebrew the Unites States called "Artzot Habrit".
"Artzot" in Hebrew = Lands/countries.
"Brit" in Hebrew = covenant/treaty.



14 posted on 01/12/2005 5:30:36 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defence Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: Al Gator
They were pro-Israel, they wanted the Jewish homeland to be return to the Jews.

Jews helped bankroll Washington during the revolutionary war. This is why the Star of David still appears on the one dollar bill (made up of 13 stars above the eagle).

There's a wealth of info on the subject in Michael Evans' book "The American Prophecies: Ancient Scriptures Reveal Our Nation's Future"

15 posted on 01/12/2005 5:36:51 AM PST by BRITinUSA
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To: SJackson
Perhaps it refers to Thomas Covenant, The Unbeliever, who is transported to The Land:

http://theland.antgear.com/

My fav series of books, btw. Beats Tolkien books.
16 posted on 01/12/2005 5:39:15 AM PST by KillTime (Western Civilization herself breathes a sigh of relief as President Bush wins 4 more years.)
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To: KillTime

I dang near spewed coffee on that one. The last thing I expected to see, on this thread, was a Thomas Covenant The Unbeliever reference.


17 posted on 01/12/2005 5:43:03 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: BRITinUSA
Jews helped bankroll Washington during the revolutionary war. This is why the Star of David still appears on the one dollar bill (made up of 13 stars above the eagle).

I just looked at a dollar bill, all I see over the eagle is the 13 stars representing the original colonies. I do not see the "star of david" anywhere.

I think this idea that the founders were "pro-israel" is a real stretch.

18 posted on 01/12/2005 5:44:54 AM PST by Al Gator
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To: BRITinUSA
Here is a link to a site that explains how the "land of the covenant" is related to the lost tribes of Israel. Even the language is interesting.

For example, "Brit Am" means "people of the covenant" and this is the source for "Britain". The "Union Jack" and the word "yank" for Americans is from the name "Jacob" (according to the writer of this article).

Click for Link

19 posted on 01/12/2005 5:44:59 AM PST by weenie (Islam is as "...dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: KillTime
My fav series of books, btw. Beats Tolkien books...

Oh, yeah; I'd rather read a bloated wordflood about a hateful, bitter rapist-hero (??) who believes in nothing, over noble characters who believe in something, anytime.

I mean, why waste time on the original when you can spend years of your life on an imitation?

< / mild sarcasm >

Dan

20 posted on 01/12/2005 5:46:36 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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