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Posted on 01/10/2005 4:23:05 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Md. Governor Vetoes Malpractice Bill

Gov. Robert Ehrlich vetoed a bill to hold down big verdicts in medical malpractice cases Monday, saying it does not go far enough to control the skyrocketing cost of insurance for doctors and includes a tax that will be passed on to consumers.

The governor, a Republican, had promised to veto the measure passed during last month's special session of the Democrat-controlled Legislature.

"It's tort reform light and a tax on working families," Ehrlich said. "It's a very small step proceeding in the right direction."

The bill was endorsed by state associations representing doctors and hospitals and is supported by the consumer group Health Care for All. Democratic leaders said they plan to try to override the veto when they meet Tuesday.

The measure would freeze the cap for damages against doctors over pain and suffering at its current level of $650,000. It would lower the cap to $812,500, from $1.6 million, in the event of a patient death.

"The doctors support it. The hospitals support it," said state Sen. Brian Frosh, a Democrat. "I don't think there's anybody in the governor's corner any more."

(Excerpt) Read more at asia.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: erlich; healthcare; tortreform; veto
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1 posted on 01/10/2005 4:23:05 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

""The doctors support it. The hospitals support it," said state Sen. Brian Frosh, a Democrat. "I don't think there's anybody in the governor's corner any more."
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I live in MD. My Doctor (and everyone he knows) does not support this legislation.


2 posted on 01/10/2005 4:43:50 PM PST by enigma825
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To: Sub-Driver

Can this be overturned at the Federal level?


3 posted on 01/10/2005 4:45:57 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: enigma825

Are you saying your doctor supports caping the malpractice? Or are you saying your doctor supports vetoing the bill?


4 posted on 01/10/2005 4:48:11 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

no


5 posted on 01/10/2005 4:48:36 PM PST by camas
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To: enigma825
They make it sound like there are all these frivolous lawsuits against doctors. A lot of attorneys won't even do med mal because it is so expensive just to get it started. Most clients can't afford the costs up front so the attorney has to advance it. You have to have an affidavit from at least one other doctor stating he believes there was malpractice. You have to hire experts to review reams of medical records. And the insurance companies have attorneys who do nothing but med mal defense so it isn't easy to file a frivolous medical malpractice suit to begin with. And it takes several years to ever get to trial. Imagine all this time the injured is trying to get on with their life but aren't able to work as a result of their injury. I'm not saying there aren't some outrageous awards, but I believe they are few and far between. I think it's the job of a jury to determine damages.
6 posted on 01/10/2005 4:50:32 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: enigma825

I live in MD too.
I used to work in Silver Spring and my boss knew Ehrlich.
We did a lot of govt. design work (the most boring stuff in the world.) I met him once during a proposal.
He seemed nice.


7 posted on 01/10/2005 4:51:01 PM PST by bananarepublican23
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To: mlc9852
it isn't easy to file a frivolous medical malpractice suit to begin with.

Nonsense. I know details on dozens of them and 80% of the ones I know of are frivolous.

8 posted on 01/10/2005 4:55:11 PM PST by Taliesan (The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)
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To: mlc9852

I don't believe it should be the job of a jury to determine an award with no limitation. The reality is that they have been convinced through emotion and not fact to award millions of other people's money.

(Proceeds from the tax would be used to underwrite the cost of malpractice insurance and increase Medicaid reimbursements to doctors in specialties such as obstetrics, where malpractice costs have been particularly high.)
They call this reform: Ultimately this bill forces tax payers to subsidize lawyers. There is no shame apparently! This also proves that doctors and their unions will easily side with their tormentors as long as they're not the ones who foot the ultimate bill (also based on their breathless support of socialized medicine).


9 posted on 01/10/2005 5:08:40 PM PST by winner3000
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Then you must have a lot of dishonest doctors AND lawyers. And that's why they have motions to dismiss and ask for attorneys' fees. What state do you live in?
10 posted on 01/10/2005 5:08:41 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
Ehrlich had proposed tougher restrictions on malpractice lawsuits, arguing that frivolous suits and excessive awards have driven up the cost of insurance to the point that some doctors are shutting down their practices.

But the bill passed by lawmakers included a 2 percent tax on HMO premiums, adamantly opposed by Ehrlich. Proceeds from the tax would be used to underwrite the cost of malpractice insurance and increase Medicaid reimbursements to doctors in specialties such as obstetrics, where malpractice costs have been particularly high.

Ehrlich said HMOs would pass the tax increase along to consumers.

Let me see if I have this straight. Malpractice insurance and frivolous lawsuits are driving doctors out of the state. The solution is for legislators (mostly lawyers) to raise taxes to pay the insurance. Right. If malpractice is not a revenue generator for lawyers, I suggest that they save all the money they spend advertizing their speciality on tv and in every piece of print including the yellow pages.

(PS) What doctor wouldn't support someone else paying his premium, even if it is gotten by taxing everyone.

11 posted on 01/10/2005 5:15:37 PM PST by TheHound
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To: winner3000

Great minds think alike. You sir, type faster than me.


12 posted on 01/10/2005 5:20:48 PM PST by TheHound
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To: Sub-Driver

I was at this news conference. Ehrlich also said the legislation was a $430 million tax increase to take care of a $30 million problem. The one quote of his in the posted article does not tell the story.

To those who think there is no medical malpractice crisis in MD (and in a lot of other states as well), consider this: Johns Hopkins University will graduate ZERO (as in NONE) OB-GYNS next year because the med-mal insurance rates are so high. To a great extent, that is due to a lethal combination of fivolous lawsuits and outrageous jury awarded payouts.

The Wall Street Journal ran an editorial on Ehrlich's Veto in this morning's edition. Further, you can read Ehrlich's Veto message-letter on gov.state.md.us

This crisis is real, folks - and it may be coming your way.


13 posted on 01/10/2005 5:45:00 PM PST by NCPAC (Social Darwinists Unite!)
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To: TheHound
What doctor wouldn't support someone else paying his premium, even if it is gotten by taxing everyone.

This one wouldn't, especially if the money is going to greedy trial lawyers.

Maryland only has one malpractice carrier, Medical Mutual. I suspect this is part of the problem.

14 posted on 01/10/2005 5:45:38 PM PST by lizma
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To: mlc9852

It's not the award, it's the threat of the award, that drives malpractice rates.

The average cost of a tort lawsuit is well over 60 grand. So if someone sues, it is chaper for insurance companies to settle for less than 60 grand than to go to trial.

Lawyers get half.

Easy $30k for them.


15 posted on 01/10/2005 5:45:43 PM PST by MonroeDNA (The US should get out of the UN.)
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To: MonroeDNA

If only it were that easy.


16 posted on 01/10/2005 6:01:00 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
I'm not saying there aren't some outrageous awards, but I believe they are few and far between

The problem is that doctors perform a lot of almost needless tests so that even if the odds are a million to one against, they do not miss something that could have been found with a few to many more tests that mostly show nothing.

The second problem is there are bad medical outcomes that are not the fault of a doctor. Basically, the public often believes that if there is a bad outcome, then it must be someone's fault, and why should not the person who had a bad outcome be compensated for a bad outcome. The answer is that medicine can not cure everything and there are bad outcomes just because that is the way it is.

You seem to think every bad outcome should be compensated so that the "victims" can get on with their lives. Frankly, the patients should buy "bad outcome" insurance, but they don't want to do that, instead they rely on lawyers who provide it for them, but only at a great cost to everyone in society.

17 posted on 01/10/2005 6:19:21 PM PST by staytrue
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To: MonroeDNA
It's not the award, it's the threat of the award, that drives malpractice rates.

The other problem is an overly generous time limit for filing lawsuits. That is, you get operated on, you can still sue 10 years later. This makes it very difficult for insurers to correctly price insurance on an actuarial basis.

18 posted on 01/10/2005 6:23:05 PM PST by staytrue
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To: TheHound
Malpractice insurance and frivolous lawsuits are driving doctors out of the state. The solution is for legislators (mostly lawyers) to raise taxes to pay the insurance.

It's the dumbest idea I've ever heard, especially coming from the idiot Rats in MD.

19 posted on 01/10/2005 11:46:33 PM PST by Angry Republican (Screw the Sun! Ehrlich in '06!)
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"This is a bill that was contrived by trial lawyers," said Michael Gloth, a physician who treats the elderly.

That's what I've been saying. These are ideas created by a bunch of people who want to be like their hero Peter Angelos.

20 posted on 01/10/2005 11:49:31 PM PST by Angry Republican (Screw the Sun! Ehrlich in '06!)
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