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Lessons from Waves of Disaster
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 7 January 2005 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 01/05/2005 4:53:00 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

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The subject is of interest to Freepers. Column's ready early, so it's posted early.

John / Billybob

1 posted on 01/05/2005 4:53:02 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob

Our efforts truly deserve more good news like this. Thank you.


2 posted on 01/05/2005 4:58:43 PM PST by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"no President should call the French “ungrateful, arrogant, unwashed b*stards.”

I agree. So please allow me.

The French are ungrateful, arrogant, unwashed bastards.


3 posted on 01/05/2005 4:59:46 PM PST by PeterFinn (Liberals are a greater threat to the USA than are Islamofascists.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

As of today, the UN is in charge of relief efforts.


4 posted on 01/05/2005 5:02:48 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
As of today, the UN is in charge of relief efforts.

The story behind that should be fascinating.
I will wait for another book like Patrick Moynihan's A dangerous Place.

5 posted on 01/05/2005 5:14:44 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: PeterFinn

Ditto!


6 posted on 01/05/2005 5:16:39 PM PST by Enterprise
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To: Congressman Billybob
Any competent observer should realize it is as useless to negotiate with a mass murderer, as with a tsunami on its way across an ocean.

I respectfully have to disagree here, Congressman.

The UN Oil For Fraud program is a perfect example you can negotiate with a mass murderer if you have something he wants and are willing to be bought off for it.

You and a mass murderer (under the right circumstances) can scratch each others' backs and mutually get something out of it.

Try that approach with a tsunami wave!

7 posted on 01/05/2005 5:22:49 PM PST by Gritty ("History is a fine teacher, but only for those who bother to read it."-John Armor)
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To: Congressman Billybob

The President does not hold the nation's purse strings, Congress does. The President cannot simply unilateraly allocate funds to this disaster. In fact, I understand the $350 million he did pledge was the entire amount previously appropriated by Congress in the budget for all emergency relief (including domestic tornados, hurricanes and earthquakes.) His initial pledge of $35,000 must have been an allocation they originally found that could be unsed for foreign relief purposes. I understand that the President's pledge has now been approved by the newly covened Congress.

Detractors of the President's actions lack a fundamental understanding of how our governmental system works.


8 posted on 01/05/2005 5:25:42 PM PST by marsh2
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To: Publius6961; shubi
I heard the report on Fox that the US was letting the UN take the lead in relief work. We've got them down with our combat boots on their scrawny, corrupt necks, and we're letting them up? I don't get it.

I haven't seen the details. Maybe it's just a cosmetic sop. All the people DELIVERING the aid should be Americans, wearing American uniforms. The people who are getting help should know where that aid is coming from

Billybob

9 posted on 01/05/2005 5:32:57 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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To: marsh2

It is unconstitutional to take our tax money and give it to foreigners. That is left to the states and the people.


10 posted on 01/05/2005 5:44:22 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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Altho I'm sure the tsunami tragedy is severe, and not wanting to sound like a sceptic, just how in the world are they coming up with these 140,000 dead figures? Is the world getting scammed? Is there really any way to come up with these incredible figures? Is it remotely possible that, especially since the UN wants to be the distributor of the largess (viz. Oil for Food), maybe this is a big-time money grab by the 3rd world, and that perhaps many people are going to get incredibly rich from this? Is there a major redistribution of wealth occurring right now? Am I being sinful with my doubting mind?


11 posted on 01/05/2005 5:46:23 PM PST by laweeks (I)
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To: laweeks
Unless some very technical photographic forgery is going on here, (remember Capricorn One) this is real. I have seen movies of buses washing out to sea with people in them. I have seen the before and after photographs of coastal communities that have ceased to exist.

Yes, this tragedy is real. It will only turn into a giant scam if the UN gets its hands on the money.

Billybob

12 posted on 01/05/2005 5:52:11 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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I hear a lot of numbers of refugees being thrown around. I have a suspicion that in the Bandeh Aceh area, there are not that many left to help.
13 posted on 01/05/2005 5:59:19 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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A few additional notes:

* The US, with our solid traditions of independent, individual, private, tax deductable giving, naturally has a low *government aid* figure vis a vis this disaster than the Euro nanny states. I read that we are over 200M in terms of non governmental giving, *thus far* in the US!

* How much are our military efforts to render aid costing? That's no chump change. Gee, how many German, French, Swedish and Norwegian ships, choppers and planes are down there right now? Hmmmmmm ......

* Now for the non PC. A number of the governments besides Indonesia both knew about the high probability of a tsunami strike and did nothing. In the case of Thailand, there was apparently fear that a false alarm would be bad for tourism. Not sure what the deal was with India and Sri Lanka. In any case, if *I* had been sitting there, knowing there had been a subduction zone earthquake off of Sumatra, I would have issued a warning. People in high places in every affected country knew about the earthquake minutes after it happened, what with all the seismo stuff on the web these days. Hmmmmm ....

* Well, the images of our real, substantial, hands on aid cannot be stopped. I heard Mr. Coffee stayed on the ski slopes for a few days after the disaster. Hmmmmmmm ....


14 posted on 01/05/2005 5:59:30 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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Meantime, a group of white, liberal, American Democrats, led by former Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, held a hush-hush meeting in New York with Kofi Annan. The UN Secretary General was instructed to attend without his aides, for a candid discussion of how to “save” his career and “save” the UN.

When did this meeting take place? I thought it was before the election. Was it more recent than that?

15 posted on 01/05/2005 6:49:23 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
The "save Kofi's butt" meeting apparently took place a few weeks ago. The New York Times broke the story this week. It was post-US-election but pre-tsunami. Billybob
16 posted on 01/05/2005 6:55:26 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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To: laweeks

"Am I being sinful with my doubting mind?"

No. You have every reason to believe an ample portion of any given funds will be misappropriated.

You are sane. Praise the Lord and give thanks for it.


17 posted on 01/05/2005 7:36:59 PM PST by avenir
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"The idea that the UN can survive with Annan at the helm and sweep that scandal under the rug should be recognized as insane by any professional politician, even ones who still cannot understand why John Kerry’s campaign sank like a brick in a well."

I dunno, congersman, them demmycrats got away with rape, adultery, watching Rwanda tear itself to bits, and selling secret military technology to our enemies. It's not a fur stretch to expect them to believe that they think they can extend the same longevity to ol' Kofi.

18 posted on 01/05/2005 7:50:01 PM PST by nightdriver
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How many vietnamese people were bombed, shot and killed by US army?


19 posted on 01/06/2005 4:17:29 AM PST by european-pov (european-pov)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Please tell us more about natural disasters more important that the last tsunami in south asia. Which ones?


20 posted on 01/06/2005 4:18:33 AM PST by european-pov (european-pov)
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