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Marine jailed for refusing to pick up gun
NJ.com ^ | 1/05/05 | ESTES THOMPSON, AP

Posted on 01/05/2005 2:10:43 AM PST by kattracks

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — A soldier who re-enlisted with the Marines after becoming a Seventh-Day Adventist has been jailed for refusing to pick up a gun. Cpl. Joel D. Klimkewicz, 24, of Birch Run, Mich., was sentenced last month in a court-martial to seven months in Camp Lejeune's brig. He also received a reduction in rank to private and a bad conduct discharge.

Klimkewicz was charged with refusing to obey order two years to draw a weapon from his unit's armory for a training exercise in preparation for an Iraq deployment.

In refusing the order, Klimkewicz told his superiors he was a conscientious objector and cited his new status as a member of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church.

The church supports noncombatant status for its members who serve in the military, but leaves such decisions to a member's individual conscience.

Klimkewicz joined an Adventist church in Jacksonville in 2003, a year after he re-enlisted. He sought conscientious objector status, which was rejected in last March.

"Conscientious objector status has to be granted," said Capt. Jeff Pool, a spokesman for the 2nd Marine Division at Lejeune. "Since his package was denied, it was just simply disobeying an order. That is what he was charged with."

The timing of Klimkewicz's conversion and re-enlistment were issues in his case, church attorney Mitchell Tyner said Tuesday. The Marine Corps said he should have known better than to re-enlist after joining the church, he said.


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1 posted on 01/05/2005 2:10:44 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
re-enlisted with the Marines after becoming a Seventh-Day

joined an Adventist church in Jacksonville in 2003, a year after he re-enlisted

So did he re-enlist before he re-enlisted, or did he become an Adventist before he became one?

2 posted on 01/05/2005 2:14:18 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

You should not expect the liberal media to get the facts straight.


3 posted on 01/05/2005 2:17:18 AM PST by blanknoone (The two big battles left in the War on Terror are against our State dept and our media.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I don't think even John Kerry could come up with that much flip-flopping.
4 posted on 01/05/2005 2:21:26 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("Nature abhors a moron."-H.L. Mencken)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

You severely misunderestimate John Kerry..


5 posted on 01/05/2005 2:25:07 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv

How do you do the superscript in your tag line? It's even superscript in the source code - I didn't think that was possible.


6 posted on 01/05/2005 2:44:24 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: kattracks

Hope that the pu$$y enjoyed that Big Chicken Dinner!


7 posted on 01/05/2005 2:44:57 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Yeah, what's wrong with this picture? Regardless, this guy should not have reenlisted and the Marines should kick him to the curb with an OTH discharge.


8 posted on 01/05/2005 2:46:13 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: HMFIC

Works for me. Give this whack a Bad Conduct Discharge and send him on his way. And make this fruitcake pay back any reenlistment bonuses or other incentives that he may have gotten for reenlisting.


9 posted on 01/05/2005 2:50:07 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: Larry Lucido
Klimkewicz was charged with refusing to obey order two years to draw a weapon...

What does that even mean? This journalist needs to take a reading comprehension class and his editor should be sacked.

10 posted on 01/05/2005 2:53:15 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

It's AP, what do you expect?


11 posted on 01/05/2005 3:03:42 AM PST by marty60
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To: marty60

Yep, AP isn't known for their brilliant news reporting. I didn't get to read the whole article because I'm not a subscriber to nj.com, but I'm sure they found a way to blame Bush.


12 posted on 01/05/2005 3:09:15 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

RE your other post. I wonder if this was his way of conning some money out of the military (reup bonus). How much are they paying now anyway.


13 posted on 01/05/2005 3:16:43 AM PST by marty60
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

No doubt. The ONE thing the Corps doesn't play around with is recouping their losses. If he got any bonus, he'll be paying it back, trust me. Either a lump sum or out of any tax refunds for the next 100 years.


14 posted on 01/05/2005 3:19:59 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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To: kattracks
"Klimkewicz was charged with refusing to obey order two years to draw a weapon from his unit's armory for a training exercise in preparation for an Iraq deployment."

Huh?

Must be an honor graduate from one of those elite journalism schools.
15 posted on 01/05/2005 3:20:13 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: Larry Lucido

I just copied & pasted it from the MS Word symbol. I think the FR script is preset to recognize some of them .. dunno how what decides which ones. I know that it used to not recognize the euro symbol € and then it did.


16 posted on 01/05/2005 3:20:14 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: kattracks
Soon after I got back from Vietnam and my right leg had healed enough to let me start riding bikes again (about 1969), I was back to motorcycle maintenance on my lawn. As I was working on fishing the timing chain out of the crankcase, a young guy about by age came up and starting talking about the Seventh Day Adventist religion.

He went on and on for about an hour while I finally found the chain and lined it up properly over the cam sprocket. When I stood up, he asked if I was interested in joining. I asked him if he or anybody else in his church was helping us fight in Vietnam. He told me that they were against all fighting and that he had heard some Adventists had served as medics but none would fight.

I told him that I only respected those that went to Vietnam to serve - particularly as medics/Navy Corpsmen and that I would listen more when he got back from his service in Vietnam.

"But until that time, stay off my lawn"

17 posted on 01/05/2005 3:22:09 AM PST by USMCVet
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To: marty60

I'm not sure what the re-up bonuses are now, and it probably depends on what job specialty the guy is in.


18 posted on 01/05/2005 3:24:01 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: kattracks

This is my rifle.
This is my gun.
One is for fightin',
And one is for fun.


19 posted on 01/05/2005 3:25:30 AM PST by Beckwith (John, you said I was going to be the First Lady. As of now, you're on the couch.)
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To: USMCVet

This is proof of my law of religion, which is "There can be no good coming out of anything that has to do with William Miller."


20 posted on 01/05/2005 3:30:46 AM PST by TypeZoNegative (Isn't it ironic that the spleen, most useless organ in our body is also on the left side of our body)
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