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£1.9 bn portable radio system gets a poor reception from Army
The Telegraph ^ | 04/01/2005 | Michael Smith

Posted on 01/04/2005 6:01:37 AM PST by ijcr

The Army's new £1.9 billion (almost US $4 Billion) communications system is facing such serious problems that the Director of Infantry initially refused to accept the portable radio into service.

Brig Jamie Balfour was ordered to take the radio "for political reasons" despite a series of issues that make it "totally unsuitable" for use in front-line infantry operations.

Troops complain that Bowman is not strong enough for combat use

Brig Balfour told a recent briefing at the School of Infantry: "All the rumours you've heard. It is as bad as you've heard.

"But we have been told that, politically, we have got to make it work. Now you guys will have to go out and find a way of making it work."

He concluded the briefing by warning: "Hang on to your cellphones."

The Royal Anglians, who were given the radio to test in July, found that on some settings the signallers were receiving radiation burns when they tried to transmit.

The MoD subsequently claimed that the problem had been overcome. But this was achieved simply by not using the affected settings, cutting down the usefulness of the radio.

The problems are now far more extensive, defence sources said.

The radio, which weighs 15lbs, is three times as heavy as its predecessor.

Troops complain that it is not strong enough or flexible enough for use in front-line combat.

The call sign has to be "squirted" into it with a special programme key. Once that is done that particular radio set is tied to that call sign.

This allows for absolutely no flexibility in a battlefield situation where radios might have to be moved between call signs as they are lost or destroyed.

The signaller has a complicated web of wiring which runs up from the radio pouch through his webbing via the chest control pad up to his head set.

"If a guy has this on his body and he goes down, you can't just take the radio off him," a source said. "You have to disentangle the wiring, which breaks very easily, from his webbing."

The section radio was originally supposed to be accompanied by a keypad and data terminal/screen that the section commander would wear on his arm, as you would a watch.

But the keypad and data terminal weigh 2 kg, which made them far too heavy to wear. They have now been ditched.

The batteries are more limited in life than the Clansman radio that Bowman replaces.

Clansman used AA batteries, which could be obtained easily. Bowman uses unique batteries, which are not robust and are not readily available.

General Dynamics won the £1.9 billion contract to produce the Bowman system to replace the Clansman radios.

Lord Bach, the procurement minister, announced last March that Bowman had been brought into service.

The MoD said: "The technology within the Bowman system is both complex and cutting edge, and consequently there have been set backs. The trialling process, as you would expect, has identified issues which everyone is committed to overcome."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: britisharmy; radios; uk
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These pieces of crap were part of the arms deal with Canada that involved the transfer of four submarines. The Brits screwed the Canucks with the subs and in return the Canadians set back British military communications by 50 yrs.

If soldiers lives were not at risk this would be the deal of the century.

1 posted on 01/04/2005 6:01:37 AM PST by ijcr
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To: ijcr

Sounds like these radios were designed by anti-war engineers.


2 posted on 01/04/2005 6:14:01 AM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: ijcr

I'm no commo experty, but a few of the radios I've used in the U.S. military don't sound much better than the ones described here. They were mostly dead weight.


3 posted on 01/04/2005 6:23:34 AM PST by 68skylark
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Are these those radios which don't have batteries but instead draw their power from teh soldier's boots which have little generators so that each step the soldier takes charges the rechargeble battery in the boots a little bit and can be used to power anythign portable? That is cool... Think of all the unused energy that could be harnessed from ever step a person takes. If we forced everyone in the country to wear shoes with generators in them and charge batteries which could later be used to power things, we'd save billions of dollars.


4 posted on 01/04/2005 6:40:22 AM PST by Decombobulator
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"Brig Jamie Balfour was ordered to take the radio "for political reasons" despite a series of issues that make it "totally unsuitable" for use in front-line infantry operations."

Fortunately for the Brits, their troops are very seldom on the "front lines" anywhere; that's what the U.S. Marines are for!

5 posted on 01/04/2005 6:45:48 AM PST by Redbob
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Fortunately for the Brits, their troops are very seldom on the "front lines" anywhere; that's what the U.S. Marines are for!

May one ask a little question? Who fought alongside U.S. Marines and the U.S. Army in Iraq?

Answer the Royal Marines, and the British Army.

Oh and that's not what U.S. Marines are for, the U.S. Marines are for defending America, and fighting for her interests. Her Majesty's Armed Forces are for defending Britain and fighting for her interests. In recent years those interests have coincided and so we became allies, it's just a pity that some of you seem intent on destroying any goodwill which Brits have towards your country.
6 posted on 01/04/2005 7:34:18 AM PST by tjwmason ("For he himself has said it, And it's greatly to his credit, That he is an Englishman!")
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He concluded the briefing by warning: "Hang on to your cellphones."

Edited for the American market? He almost certainly would have said "Hang on to your mobiles."

7 posted on 01/04/2005 9:09:50 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: tjwmason

Here Here!


8 posted on 01/04/2005 9:36:49 AM PST by rocksblues (RINO's = McCain, Lott, Collins, Hagel, Coleman, Specter ! developing)
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In recent years those interests have coincided and so we became allies, it's just a pity that some of you seem intent on destroying any goodwill which Brits have towards your country.

SS. The truth is you do not want to admit that there is a segment of British who don't have any "goodwill". Troll!

9 posted on 01/04/2005 9:47:55 AM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: sausageseller

You're the one following him around, Sausagemeat.


10 posted on 01/04/2005 10:06:07 AM PST by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Championship!)
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The truth is you do not want to admit that there is a segment of British who don't have any "goodwill".

Hello old chap, having fun selling your sausages?

Far from it. There are lots of British people (I'm guessing that you meant to add in a noun like 'society' after the word 'British') who have no goodwill towards the U.S. - just as there are plenty of Americans who have no goodwill towards the U.K. (such as your good self, and the gentlemen running groups such as NORAID). On the otherhand, there are thankfully plenty of us who have the good sense to rise above such mindless nonsense and rejoice in mutual goodwill.

Troll!

With such a childish display I can only respond as I did when I was five.

I know you are, you said you are, so what am I?
11 posted on 01/04/2005 10:07:32 AM PST by tjwmason ("For he himself has said it, And it's greatly to his credit, That he is an Englishman!")
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No. I just reading the thread and saw your Freeper & American bashing post.

Why do you lie so much, jjtroll?

12 posted on 01/04/2005 10:17:43 AM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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just as there are plenty of Americans who have no goodwill towards the U.K. (such as your good self,

SS. Proof, Troll?

No, just another lie I can add to your long list!

13 posted on 01/04/2005 10:20:28 AM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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I just reading the thread and saw your Freeper & American bashing post.

Can you direct me to it? The only posts I've made on this thread have been this one and my post to you just now.

You are either very very stupid or very dishonest. I suspect it's a combination of both. No wonder you can only get a job selling sausages.

14 posted on 01/04/2005 10:21:56 AM PST by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Championship!)
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You're not wrong there JJ.

Or should that be 'your'.

15 posted on 01/04/2005 10:26:18 AM PST by insider_uk
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My theory is that Sausagemeat believes all the British posters here are the same person.

With his inward attitude, it's unlikely his American sausages will ever be exported to the mother country.

16 posted on 01/04/2005 10:29:32 AM PST by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Championship!)
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To: tjwmason

Bismark said that the most important fact of the 19th century was that the United States spoke English. There can be no rational explanation for U.S. entry into WW-I other than a sentimental regard for the "Mother Country", although by 1917 more Americans were of German than British descent and the affinity to the Vaterland was closer, given that the immigration was more recent on average.


17 posted on 01/04/2005 10:29:41 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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it's just a pity that some of you seem intent on destroying any goodwill which Brits have towards your country.

SS Who then is "some of you"? Point out something factual to back up your posts! Generalizations are your hall mark. When you made your "raped and robbed" comment was that promoting "Goodwill'?

Your a two faced liar, troll!

18 posted on 01/04/2005 10:30:18 AM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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The Countries That We Love and Hate (How Brits view the outside world) Posted by jjbrouwer to VeritatisSplendor On News/Activism 01/03/2005 5:42:44 PM EST · 113 of 124 I agree. America is great unless you don't like being raped or murdered...

SS. Was this your "promoting goodwill"? Troll?

19 posted on 01/04/2005 10:34:36 AM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: ijcr

I think General Dynamics are American.
It is headquartered in Falls Church, Virginia after all.


20 posted on 01/04/2005 10:36:46 AM PST by insider_uk
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