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Cash aids battle against illegal guns (ALBANY OFFERS CASH TO PEOPLE TO TURN IN OTHER PEOPLE)

Posted on 12/30/2004 7:09:57 AM PST by 1Old Pro

Cash aids battle against illegal guns Albany to offer rewards for those who turn in people for possessing unlawful firearms
 
By CAROL DeMARE, Staff writer
First published: Thursday, December 30, 2004
ALBANY -- Albany police will begin providing rewards for information leading to the arrests of suspects with illegal guns.

Earlier this month, the Albany County Legislature approved a $180,837 state grant that includes $10,000 for the reward program in the city of Albany. The project will be run under Operation Impact, a state crime-fighting endeavor.

"Any individual who has information that another person has an illegal handgun, if they contact the Albany Police Department and give them the information the police will follow up, and if they get a gun, (the informant) will get a reward," District Attorney Paul A. Clyne said Wednesday.

Rewards could run between $100 and $200 once the firearm is seized and the suspect convicted, he said. Police will decide the amount. The program starts immediately, he said.

"We will have to see what kind of a response there is," Clyne said. "If the response is great, then the money will go quickly."

Operation Impact is a strategy involving crime-mapping and targeting resources, he said.

"One of the objectives is to reduce gun violence and that means getting guns off the street, and people in neighborhoods may have information as to who is carrying guns, and we are willing to pay for that information," the district attorney said.

Targeting illegal handguns was the hallmark of Clyne's four-year administration, which ends Friday. He campaigned on the issue of getting guns off the streets and sharply prosecuted those convicted of gun possession. (YET ALBANY'S CRIME RATE GOES UP, NOT DOWN-MY COMMENT)

In 2003, only one county outside of New York City sent more people to prison for straight felony gun possession with no other charge involved than did Albany County, Clyne said. That was significantly larger Erie County, which locked up 33 felons. Albany sent 30 to prison.

Incoming District Attorney David Soares also has pledged to make illegal guns one of his targets. ( SOARES WON WITH THE HELP OF A LARGE, ILLEGAL CONTRIBUTION FROM GEORGE SOROS- MY COMMENT)

The district attorney's office secured the grant, and "the lion's share of the money will be spent on police overtime," Clyne said. Some funds will be used to purchase a water tank for police to test-fire illegal guns, he said.

SOURCE URL: http://timesunion.com/AspStories/storyprint.asp?StoryID=318659


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I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. DO THE POLICE DO A PREMISE SEARCH BASED SOLEY ON SOMEONE'S TIP?
1 posted on 12/30/2004 7:09:58 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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Two thing usually happen at these events. One people turn in mostly junk, and some gun owners go to them with cash and offer a little more to buy the good ones.


2 posted on 12/30/2004 7:14:07 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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Sorry I thought that this was a bout one of the gun buybacks. But this is just wrong.


3 posted on 12/30/2004 7:15:35 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: 1Old Pro

All the time. "Acting on the statement of a confidential informant" get's doors knocked in everyday.


4 posted on 12/30/2004 7:27:38 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah!!!)
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All the time. "Acting on the statement of a confidential informant" get's doors knocked in everyday.

Sounds like an illegal search....where's the ACLU???

5 posted on 12/30/2004 7:29:43 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Training lions.


6 posted on 12/30/2004 7:30:30 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah!!!)
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To: 1Old Pro

This is just another STUPID feel good campaign promise that is a waste of time and public funds.

If they want to get illegal guns off the streets start enforcing the laws that are already on the books!!!!!

Look at the guys standing on the corners at 2 and 3am and PAY ATTENTION to the foot traffic that stops to converse with them and pay them for them bestowing profound knowledge to the select masses with glazed eyes.

"Five for Fitty!!! Five for Fitty!!!"


7 posted on 12/30/2004 7:30:37 AM PST by Sledgehammered (An American that happens to be *Black* (I am an AMERICAN FIRST f&^$ da hyphen!!!))
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I'm a rabid 2A supporter, but this doesn't seem like it's too intrusive. If they genuinely go out and seek ILLEGAL handguns, then what's the harm? If the Albany PD comes knocking on my door (I live in FL, this is hypothetical) and see that I've got no priors and own all of my firearms legally, then I'm in the clear, right?

The one problem I do see is that it could be used to start a firearms DB, which is completely wrong, IMO. Given that this is a state where Hitlery and Rangle preside over the people, I'm sure there's an ulterior motive. Any thoughts?

8 posted on 12/30/2004 7:35:24 AM PST by rarestia
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To: 1Old Pro

Operation Impact's toll free line is 1-800-GUN-PIMP.

:)


9 posted on 12/30/2004 7:37:45 AM PST by myheroesareDeadandRegistered (Ann Coulter/ Mark Levin tag team in '08)
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Well...as long as you've done nothing wrong, why don't we have a look at your bank account ?


10 posted on 12/30/2004 7:37:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: rarestia
If the Albany PD comes knocking on my door (I live in FL, this is hypothetical) and see that I've got no priors and own all of my firearms legally, then I'm in the clear, right?

No problem, until they see you smoking with a child in the room. They then handcuff you for child abuse, a felony, and then take away all your legally owned guns.

11 posted on 12/30/2004 7:42:13 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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"I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. DO THE POLICE DO A PREMISE SEARCH BASED SOLEY ON SOMEONE'S TIP?"

Phase One:

'If you don't have anything illegal in your car, you won't mind if we search it, right?'

Phase Two:

'If you don't have any illegal guns in your house, you won't mind if we search it, right?'

Phase Three:

'TIP?' What tip? We don't need no steenking tip.'

12 posted on 12/30/2004 7:44:02 AM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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Soemone should give to the police the addresses of other police officers and tell them they have guns in their house. Then ask for the reward.


13 posted on 12/30/2004 7:53:41 AM PST by hoosierboy
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"I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. DO THE POLICE DO A PREMISE SEARCH BASED SOLEY ON SOMEONE'S TIP?"

All that is required is for them to convince a judge to issue a search warrant, in which certain items are named as the object of the search, ie: an "illegal" hand gun.

14 posted on 12/30/2004 8:03:34 AM PST by Designer (I don't need a tagline; you know who I am.)
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Albany police will begin providing rewards for information leading to the arrests of suspects with illegal guns

I'll bet it's a long, long, long time before they offer rewards for information leading to the arrests of illegal aliens!

15 posted on 12/30/2004 8:06:13 AM PST by Gritty ("With 8-15 million illegals,is there any hope for avoiding the nightmare of Balkanization?-VD Hanson)
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If the Albany PD comes knocking on my door (I live in FL, this is hypothetical) and see that I've got no priors and own all of my firearms legally, then I'm in the clear, right?

Sure, and what are the chances that they take all your guns down to the station to make sure they're legal? They'll rush them right back to you when they finish checking...
16 posted on 12/30/2004 8:22:09 AM PST by cryptical
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"I'll bet it's a long, long, long time before they offer rewards for information leading to the arrests of illegal aliens!"

Well put. Some folks priorities are pretty twisted.


17 posted on 12/30/2004 8:25:24 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: 1Old Pro

I'd call in "tips" on every liberal and politician in the town, starting with the mayor, from a pay phone and give a false name.


18 posted on 12/30/2004 8:29:08 AM PST by gieriscm
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To: rarestia

...If they genuinely go out and seek ILLEGAL handguns, then what's the harm? If the Albany PD comes knocking on my door (I live in FL, this is hypothetical) and see that I've got no priors and own all of my firearms legally, then I'm in the clear, right?...

No.

They sieze your property until they can verify that it's legal. They probably will take you in too.

Odds are, you'll never see your property again.

In New York, there is no such thing as a person who is not a criminal.
Any one can be arrested if they decide to.

You can't even own a handgun if you aren't special enough to get a permit.


There is no way to rule honest men, so one makes all men criminals, through the tyrrany of small laws.


19 posted on 12/30/2004 8:40:26 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: TXBSAFH
Two thing usually happen at these events. One people turn in mostly junk, and some gun owners go to them with cash and offer a little more to buy the good ones.

This is not the usual cash-for-guns event. This is a cash-for-turning-someone in event.

20 posted on 12/30/2004 8:42:30 AM PST by WildTurkey
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