Conservative students target liberal profs

Bakersfield Californian ^ | 12/25/04 | Justin Pope - AP

[LS]

"Even the most contentious or disaffected of students in the '60s or early '70s never really pressed this kind of issue,"

This is simply a lie. One of my late colleagues---a liberal---recalled that in the 1970s students would stand up in HIS class and give him the "raspberries" and wag their fingers at him when he expressed anything LESS than a view that the U.S. government ought to be overthrown! I heard the same from another prof at UD during the same time. I say, give these lib profs hell!

[Hodar]

...three incoming freshmen sued over a reading assignment they said offended their Christian beliefs.

This is where I draw the line. While I have no problems with students standing up to liberal indoctrination; when you use lawsuits to prevent assignments from beign presented, you have thwarted the entire purpose of the class.

Consider classes in biology, if any mention of evolution is challenged by a lawsuit, the students will fail to grasp the fact that life forms change over time. This is evident in the fossil records, thus we now have students dictating what will be presented for education, and what will not.

The point of college is to gain exposure to new ways of thought, be it calculus, atomic physics, Einsteinian physics as an extension of Newtonian physics, Arts, humanities, and social sciences. Whether you accept these theories into your personal life is not the point. You can be an expert in evolution and still be a devout Christian. Just because something is being assigned that you may not like, or agree with is not a reason that it should be removed from the ciriculmn. Using this same line of reasoning, would one then remove the history of Nazi Germany from the history ciriculumn?

[Doctor Raoul]

For example, at the University of North Carolina, three incoming freshmen sued over a reading assignment they said offended their Christian beliefs.

BBBBBaaaaaaaWWWWWWWaaaaaaHHHHHHHHaaaaaa!!!!!

The liberals are like Pavlov's dog and the choice of words here must make them slopper, however, they also realize this is the evil, religous, fundamentalist, evangelical, "we're allowed to hate them" Christians. Thereby causing a severe brain cramp in any and all liberals that read it.

[drt1]

I agree and I was there at that time. "Teach Ins" where campus radicals were permitted to take over classes and spew their propaganda, Ultra Lib profs who delivered biased teaching at the expense of actually educating their students and administrations who either actively supported this situation or stood aside, unwilling to stand up for students rights to a real education, made attendance at many universities a lesson in frustration on the part of many students.

The same situation is present today and I hope students and the public at large have the courage and energy to aggressively act against these ideologues.

[Hodar]

Then, using your logic; ANYONE (Buddist, Wiccian, Muslim, Hindu, Satanic, Jewish, et. al) can sue to prevent ANY class from presenting ANY work that some may find offensive.

Just think, what class could you teach that wouldn't have some aspect that may offend some religion.

Or, does this priviledge extend to Christians only?

[Ciexyz]

I remember a required English course at Penn State circa 1970 that included two readings concerning religious themes: an anti-religious book by Voltaire in which the author mocked religious belief that all things work together for good for those who love God, and a reading and analysis of the book of Job.

I'd imagine that such a balance is absent today, in that religious books would be ignored in the curriculum.

[wizardoz]

They insist even most liberal professors give fair grades to conservative students who work hard and support their arguments.

I have to say, just in my own experience, even though my views drove my profs to shaking, white-faced, blinking-back-tears rage, I always got As. Of course, they were a wimpy bunch and whenever I wore my camouflage jacket and old flight boots, they looked at me as though they expected me to grab them in some secret military vulcan death grip when no one was looking and leave them cooling in a stairwell. Heh heh heh....

[Drango]

I've saved a thousand or so over the last ten years by NOT donating to my Alumni assocation. When the colleges get hit in the wallet they'll change their behavior.

[Carolinamom]

In the interest of their much touted plea for diversity, liberal professors need to be exposed to conservatives' point of view.

[Paladin2]

I concur based on personal experience in Academia during the 60's/70's that the demands were frequent and definitely well beyond the bounds of academic freedom/inquiry and free speech. Some turnabout would be fair and just, but only as retribution. In the long run it would be best if it could all go away.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[Ben Chad]

I'd sue too if the assignment were the Koran, Queran, or however the hell it's spelled.

[shield]

bmp

[FormerACLUmember]

There is currently a ferocious war being waged by the democrat party against religion in general, and Christianity in particular. The campuses of America are (if you have any awareness) a center for anti-Christian bigotry. The war is being brought into the enemy heartland.

[Ben Chad]

Too funny

[MainFrame65]

How can anyone believe that they know about religion without reading at least the Bible and the Koran? How can anyone believe that they know about political philosophy without reading Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto, as well as the (U.S.) Declaration of Independence and Constitution? Of course, context is required, and that is the task of the professor. But a good paper supporting an unpopular point of view still deserves a good grade - and perhaps, an offline conversation with the student about the content.

AS part of a midterm test review session I was conducting for my managerial economics class, I was inventing a situation in which an increase in supply of one good would affect the price of a complementary good, and chose peanuts and beer as my example.

I asserted that Jimmy Carter had returned to the only calling where he had ever displayed any capability, thereby creating a peanut surplus, and asked the class for a static analysis of the effects. Immediate frowns from a couple of the students, particularly after some of the military students laughed at my (I thought harmless) political joke.

I felt compelled to offer an apology, since the situation was a fantasy, and I had no idea if Jimmy had actually had any more success as a peanut farmer than as leader of the free world.

But I must say that a have complimentary Emails from 5 of my 11 students, two of whom specifically mention my political viewpoint. Maybe there is hope....

[blackminorcapullets]

"Even the most contentious or disaffected of students in the '60s or early '70s never really pressed this kind of issue,"

What a crock - I had a poly sci prof - typical NYC, leftist, NYTimes suckup who gave me a C+ on a thesis supporting the man made nature of the Ukrainian Holdomor (in 1973). He had to throw in the following.

"Good as far as it goes but after all, they were Kulaks weren't they?"

Da , Comrade Tovarich!!

[NathanR]

"Even the most contentious or disaffected of students in the '60s or early '70s never really pressed this kind of issue," said Robert O'Neil, former president of the University of Virginia and now director of the Thomas Jefferson Center for the Protection of Free Expression

Liar.

Either that, or he never heard of:
"Hey Hey
Ho Ho
Western Civ has got to go!"

[The_Media_never_lie]

Good post!