Posted on 12/18/2004 6:56:12 AM PST by Toby03
Edited on 12/18/2004 7:00:47 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Weird post, but I get the gist. You seem to think only Americans can do war crimes. What about the savages who are taking people hostage, terrorizing them and beheading them?
Why not, without judgement, on both sides, pray to the Lord for wisdom and peace. Jesus prayed for His enemies and so should we. Instead we pray for people we like. What reward is there for one who loves only those who love him?
Christ is needed now more than ever and I fear Iraq will be taken over by fundamentalist Muslims and no one will have the right to worship as they wish. Only Jesus can bring peace, but in the meantime I pray that He enlighten both the insurgents and the Lyndie Englands of the world and that He take greeed out the hearts of man.
He got it too. :)
That he did!
One day you'll grow up. Maybe.
I think its really romantic how they met at the AIDS clinic.
LOL!
Lets pray for this poster. May the Lord awaken him to our Savior's love. May He take the log from his eyes and teach him love and compassion for all.
I think 'humblegunner' got a peek at that "post" too.
Zot! We Are Your Overlords!
Yuppers.
general_re was post number three, and I had posts 2 and 4.
Then the Mod's Wrath stirred and blasted the thread to dust.
ZOT happens!
You and the mods had to have clicked the link at the same time..
I will kill you all
Nothing you can do about it
I will kill you all
Nothing you can do about it
Squirrelly wrath
Squirrelly wrath
Squirrelly wrath
You're all gonna die
You're all gonna die
Is there money to be made in Afghanistan? Are we stealing oil from Iraq? And for that matter, if all we cared about was money, why didn't we just let Saddam sell it cheap. Massive profits were only a phone call away.
for the sound bites that rule our media.
Your media, habibi.
for the innocent Iraqi people that have died for our executive branchs hubris.
How about the larger numbers of innocent Iraqi people that starved under a decade of cruel sanctions and police state brutality?
for open government for and by the people.
You lost. Get over it. Better luck in 2008.
for all the commandments to be followed (thou shall not kill).
That's the only commandment you care about, because it's convenient to your current desires.
for the torture done by americans that no god would condone.
I'm sure God's seen worse than panties on heads and naked human pyramids.
that our enemy will be shown all that is good in all people.
They're not interested. They traffic in obedience and tyranny, nothing more.
we are better than our enemy in Gods eyes.
I'd be suprised to learn otherwise.
Corporations do not run our government.
Special interest run our government. A corporation can cut big checks, but they can't mobilize voters like special interests. The DNC is a Frankenstien monster of special interests, and it's falling apart. Or didn't you notice?
our leaders are judged for thier actions, not words.
I'm sure they can live with that.
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Overall, I find you post insanely naiive and petty. I award you an F-. Off you go.
the Mods are just trying to keep up with the year-end garbage
cleanup--the trolls are a nasty messy bunch you know, kind of
like rodents.It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it!
hehe! :^D
Okay, you Islamodumbo here is a little Christmas cheer for you. You Islamo Idiots have been having a great time posting your Islamo trash on internet sites. Well guess what, you are being watched by the UK intel people with our help. You can bet that the Mossad is watching you too.
Keep up the dumb a$$ed posting/replies until the knock knock comes to your door.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1239530/posts
Feds seize Indymedia servers [more info]
The Register ^ | Oct 8, 2004 | John Leyden
Posted on 10/08/2004 5:15:45 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
The FBI yesterday seized a pair of UK servers used by Indymedia, the independent newsgathering collective, after serving a subpoena in the US on Indymedia's hosting firm, Rackspace. Why or how remains unclear.
Rackspace UK complied with a legal order and handed over hard disks without first notifying Indymedia. It's unclear if the raid was executed under extra-territorial provisions of US legislation or the UK's Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA). Provisions of RIPA make it a criminal offence to discuss warrants, so Rackspace would not be able to discuss the action with its customer Indymedia, or with the media.
Rackspace US has issued a statement which says that the investigation "did not arise in the United States", but which sheds very little light on the whys and the wherefores.
In the present matter regarding Indymedia, Rackspace Managed Hosting, a US based company with offices in London, is acting in compliance with a court order pursuant to a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT), which establishes procedures for countries to assist each other in investigations such as international terrorism, kidnapping and money laundering. Rackspace responded to a Commissioner’s subpoena, duly issued under Title 28, United States Code, Section 1782 in an investigation that did not arise in the United States. Rackspace is acting as a good corporate citizen and is cooperating with international law enforcement authorities. The court prohibits Rackspace from commenting further on this matter."
Dai Davis, an IT lawyer at London law firm Nabarro Nathanson, said Rackspace's statement fails to clarify the legal basis of the raid. "If it was a RIPA warrant, Rackspace can't refer to it. Most RIPA warrants can be issued by the Home Secretary," he said. "The FBI has no jurisdiction in the UK and would need to act in concert with UK authorities, such as the security services or police," he added.
Net effect
The seizure of Indymedia's servers affects more than 30 Indymedia sites worldwide. The list of affected local media collectives includes Uruguay, Andorra, Poland, Nice, several French groups, Euskal Herria (Basque Country), multiple Belgian sites, Serbia, Portugal, the Czech Republic, Italy, Brazil, the UK, part of the Germany site, and the global Indymedia Radio site. One of the servers taken down at Rackspace provided streaming radio to several radio stations and served files related to the Blag Linux distribution, among other purposes.
While Indymedia is not exactly sure what prompted the action, the group does have one strong idea. A French Indymedia site last month posted photos of what it believed to be undercover Swiss police officers photographing protesters at a French event. Indymedia received a request from the FBI to pull those photos down, as they "revealed personal information" about the undercover police, said Indymedia press officer Hep Sano.
Rackspace appeared to confirm that the photos were an issue with the FBI.
"I apologize for the delay in responding. I have been trying to get a hold of the FBI agent I spoke with before, but haven't been able to at this time," wrote a Rackspace official to Indymedia earlier this week, according to Sano. "As the request originated with the Swiss police, I can only speculate on what they saw or what they were concerned about. However, at this time, I have received no further communications from either the FBI or the Swiss authorities, so I feel like we can close this this issue."
Still, Indymedia has never sorted out the matter with the FBI.
"They never clarified what they meant by personal information," she said. "The photos were taken on a public street."
Indymedia believes the photos were eventually pulled, but ironically cannot check on this as it no longer has access to the servers or hard disks. The group has not been notified if the FBI is even involved in this seizure or whether or not the servers or just hard disks were confiscated.
"We are still trying to work with the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) to figure out who is charging us and with what crime," said Sano. The EFF did not immediately return a call seeking comment.
Indymedia said yesterday's raids were part of a wider pattern of "attacks" against independent media outlets by the US Federal Government authorities over recent months. Last month the Federal Communications Commission shut down community radio stations around the US.
In addition, an article submitted through Indymedia's Open Newswire service identifying the names of delegates to the Republican Convention and where they were staying in New York reportedly led to an investigation by the FBI. The Secret Service used a subpoena in an "attempt to disrupt" the New York City's Independent Media Centre before last month's Republican National Convention in the city.Speculation (on Slashdot) links yesterday's raids with this investigation. This remains unconfirmed but Rackspace's comment that this is to do with "an investigation that did not arise in the United States" doesn't fit with this theory. Indymedia also believes that the Republican Convention problems have passed and are not an issue in this week's server raids.
Indymedia (AKA Independent Media Center) was set up in 1999 to provide grassroots coverage of the World Trade Organisation (WTO) protests in Seattle. It has continued to report on controversial subjects often under-reported in the mainstream media since then; but this week has marked the most controversial chapter in its operations.
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