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Teachers union: A tax hike may be needed
MPLS Star & Sickle ^ | 12-17-04 | Norman Draper

Posted on 12/17/2004 7:50:35 AM PST by Rakkasan1

Hundreds of millions of additional dollars must be pumped into Minnesota schools to get them operating at peak performance, the leader of Minnesota's teachers union said Thursday.

And if that takes more taxes, then so be it.

"We're not tax experts, but we need to put everything on the table," said Education Minnesota president Judy Schaubach. "Legislators cannot blindly adhere to a no-new-taxes stance."

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"We're not tax experts, but we need to put everything on the table," said Education Minnesota president Judy Schaubach. "Legislators cannot blindly adhere to a no-new-taxes stance."

in other words: "all your taxes are belong to us"

1 posted on 12/17/2004 7:50:35 AM PST by Rakkasan1
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To: Rakkasan1

Yep. I wonder how much teachers would give up out of their own pockets to pump schools up to operate at "peak performance."


2 posted on 12/17/2004 7:53:43 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Rakkasan1

Interesting take from the "Red Star over Minnesota".


3 posted on 12/17/2004 7:55:22 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS", Fake But Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Rakkasan1
And if that takes more taxes, then so be it.

And the ironic thing about it - 2/3 of any school budget goes to teacher's salaries and benefits...

4 posted on 12/17/2004 7:55:30 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: goldstategop
I wonder if those same teachers would teach every day of the year to get their students at Peak Performance levels? Heck- even if they taught every day that they are paid to teach-that would be a start!
5 posted on 12/17/2004 7:55:37 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (I am not NOT PC.. And Proud of it!: Merry Christmas! Happy Hanukkah!)
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To: Rakkasan1

What a surprise. Our public education system fails miserably (in part thanks to union thuggery that enables incompetent teachers not only to keep their jobs but to receive pay raises) and their solution is to throw more money at it.

Question: If we gave a billion dollars to every school district in the nation, would all of their administrations and students suddenly become peak performers? No. What kind of gains could we expect, 50% improvement? No. 10%? Doubtful.
Money is not the problem.


6 posted on 12/17/2004 7:56:55 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: Rakkasan1

Translated--"We need the taxpayers money so that we can retire on a full pension in 20 years, work 9 months a year, brainwash your children into Democrat sheep, etcetera, etcetera"

These teachers piss me off.


7 posted on 12/17/2004 7:57:36 AM PST by Pondman88
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To: Rakkasan1

How about we get rid of so many schools,How about we go to an Internet Home based school. That would make more sense, especially in Minesota, Big Sky Country. A great place for this model to be introduced.Cities could consolidate school districts and teachers no longer in schooled because of the Internet Home schooling could be retasked in the inner city class rooms.

Parents would be more involced and children would be safer and able to study at home. No traveling problems. Busses could be used where they are need more, to get the city dwellers to and from school faster, less trips.

They won't go for it because they would NOT be able to CONTROL your child values and religious beliefs.


8 posted on 12/17/2004 7:59:27 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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She proposed that the state adopt a health insurance plan that would cover all of Minnesota's K-12 public education employees.

LMAO!!!

9 posted on 12/17/2004 8:00:47 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Rakkasan1

The NEA, NFT, et al., never saw a tax-hike it didn't like. Gimme, gimme, gimme. No amount of money is ever enough for these people.


10 posted on 12/17/2004 8:01:44 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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"Our priorities are simple and clear," she said. "To make funding for public education the number one priority."

Suprise, suprise, suprise. The Union president wants more money from the taxpayers. I hope the legislature cuts their budgets.

11 posted on 12/17/2004 8:01:53 AM PST by johniegrad
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If the rationale is that higher teacher salaries will result in higher quality teachers, implicit in that statement is that the current teacher quality is lacking. Therefore, the higher salaries should go to the new teachers brought in to raise the staff quality, not to the existing and therefore problemetic staff. I wonder how that argument would go over with the NEA? After all, "we're not education experts, but we need to put everything on the table!"
12 posted on 12/17/2004 8:08:08 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: Rakkasan1
sounds like the school district's negotiations are not going well for the teachers this year
13 posted on 12/17/2004 8:08:59 AM PST by markman46
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To: Rakkasan1

"We're not tax experts, but we need to put everything on the table," said Education Minnesota president Judy Schaubach.




I'll call your bluff Ms. Schaubach and raise you one Contract consession from the Teachers union?

Watch her fold like a cheap suit.


14 posted on 12/17/2004 8:10:26 AM PST by Area51
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To: Rakkasan1

Being a Minnesota resident this sort of tripe just ticks me off...

Some four to 5 years ago when we have Ventura in as Governor he literally doubled the spending for k-12 in one year. The next biannual budget he gave them a pretty heafty increase as well as I recall but they still screamed bloddy murder. They actually pulled the typical calling it a "cut" because the increase wasnt as much even though the overall budget was higher. These big union controlled government programs never have enough money..you could give them 100% of the budget and they would scream that it wasnt enough.

And its horsecrap. Just a year or 2 ago the schoool board in Stillwater underwent a recall because they had voted to GIVE a brand new latop to every student in..I dont know middle c\school or elemnetary school or something..of course all the administrators and teachers had to have one as well.. its a huge flippin racket. Minnetonka Highschool a couple of yeras back got a brand new multi million dollar hockey arena...just for them...this was at the same time they were threatening to cut bussing if the residents didnt agree to a local tax hike for the schools.


15 posted on 12/17/2004 8:11:23 AM PST by Prysson
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To: Rakkasan1

I challenge Ms. Schaubach to go into the budget and find even one program she'd cut so the savings could go to schools.


16 posted on 12/17/2004 8:14:12 AM PST by DManA
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To: 2banana

2/3!!!! Here in the Peoples Republic of Rhode Island that percentage has risen to about 80%. Free health care and huge pensions don't come cheap you know!


17 posted on 12/17/2004 8:27:10 AM PST by got_moab? (59 million Bush fans can't be wrong)
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