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Rumsfeld under fire over Iraq (from McCain and, now, Schwarzkopf)
MSNBC ^ | Dec 14 04 | MSNBC

Posted on 12/15/2004 12:21:16 AM PST by churchillbuff

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has come under attack from Republican Sen. John McCain and retired Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf over his handling of the Iraq war.

In separate interviews, McCain, of Arizona, said he had “no confidence” in Rumsfeld, citing his handling of the war in Iraq and the failure of the Pentagon to send more troops, while Schwarzkopf, the allied commander in the first Gulf War, said Rumsfeld seemed to be passing the buck when quizzed last week about the armor supply for troops on the ground.

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[snip]=Schwarzkopf, interviewed on MSNBC-TV’s “Hardball,” chided Rumsfeld for his reply to a soldier in Kuwait over the lack of armor on many military vehicles used in Iraq.

“I was very, very disappointed — no, let me put it stronger — I was angry by the words of the secretary of defense when he laid it all on the Army, as if he, as the secretary of defense, didn’t have anything to do with the Army and the Army was over there doing it themselves, screwing up,” Schwarzkopf said.

Schwarzkopf, a registered independent who campaigned for Bush in the last two presidential elections, has previously criticized Rumsfeld on several occasions as arrogant and out of touch with troops on the ground.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: chamberlainbuff; iraq; mccain; neville; rumsfeld; schwarzkopf
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1 posted on 12/15/2004 12:21:16 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Schwartzkopf went punk a long time ago. He made a big deal about quitting the NRA because he opposed "assault weapons", so screw him.


2 posted on 12/15/2004 12:33:33 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: churchillbuff

Norman's books have probably stopped selling so now he can say what he REALLY feels.


3 posted on 12/15/2004 12:46:14 AM PST by taxesareforever
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To: taxesareforever

More troops, more armor, more brains. All are in short supply and being wasted.


4 posted on 12/15/2004 1:16:29 AM PST by meenie
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To: meenie

Glad you took time from you work in the Pentagon to share that with us.


5 posted on 12/15/2004 1:28:11 AM PST by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: churchillbuff

McCain is such a loose canon. You can never depend on him.


6 posted on 12/15/2004 1:39:08 AM PST by sd-joe (Peace is not a goal, but a consequence of doing what is right and preventing what is wrong.)
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To: churchillbuff
Election is over when the spotlight was on George Bush and trying to take him down. They failed. They flopped.

So now they move onto Don Rumsfeld and try to destroy him. Only Schwartzkopf is an honest critic here.

7 posted on 12/15/2004 1:43:26 AM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
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To: churchillbuff

Despite your best efforts George Bush won. You were an on-line traitor back than as you enunciated John Kerry's talking points.

The election is over now so I won't say the same thing unless you go nuts over this topic.


8 posted on 12/15/2004 1:46:24 AM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
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To: sd-joe

I think John McCain is insane. He is all over the road on so many things that you cannot predict what he will say. He was a loose cannon at Annapolis, he is still one. In fact, I hesitate to say, but believe from his history, that had he not been shot down his naval aviation career would have been mediocre at best, giving little impetus to his eventual political career. Had he not survived brutal imprisonment by the NVA, to much publicity, he would not have become a US Senator. Remember, he ran in much the same way kerry did - on his VietNam "resume".


9 posted on 12/15/2004 4:14:56 AM PST by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: meenie
brains... are in short supply

You make a strong argument, based on the quality of your post.

10 posted on 12/15/2004 4:48:15 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: churchillbuff

Doesn't it bother you, even a little, that you aid and abet the terrorists?


11 posted on 12/15/2004 4:49:27 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: astounded

Good points.


12 posted on 12/15/2004 5:52:31 AM PST by sd-joe (Peace is not a goal, but a consequence of doing what is right and preventing what is wrong.)
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To: churchillbuff
The AZ Banty Rooster McCain, is at it again - he really is a piece of work! Rumsfeld did what his Generals said to do - he didn't try to micromanage the war or is he now. He listens to the experts. Preventing civilian casualties is not the best way to go about war - yet that is what the Politically Correct crowd insisted on - so the results are slow in coming, but coming they are and they are good results. McCain is a blathering idiot who spent most of his service in the service of Ho Chi Man (sp) in the Hanoi Hotel chain.
13 posted on 12/15/2004 6:16:01 AM PST by yoe
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To: Coop
Doesn't it bother you, even a little, that you aid and abet the terrorists?"""

You think Schwarzkopf aids and abets terrorists? Maybe unlike you - but like Schwarzkopf - I support our troops, and that means I don't like their getting second-rate equipment, especially when congress has allocated more than 70 billion for the Iraq enterprise. Where is the money? Where and to whom is it being siphoned? The first priority with the money should be to give our troops the best equipment. If you don't agree, then you're the terrorist symp.

14 posted on 12/15/2004 7:22:31 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: yoe

I agree that McCain is a jerk. But I also think Rumsfeld has run this war incompetently. As for Schwarzkopf, I respect the man.


15 posted on 12/15/2004 7:23:35 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: dennisw
Schwarzkopf is an honest critic here."""

And somebody better listen to him because he's right.

16 posted on 12/15/2004 7:25:47 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Coop
The knee-kerk, defend the administration at all costs, smear whoever opposes us attitude by some members of this site make me laugh. Honest debate and holding people accountable even if they are on your side is vital to remaining intellectually strong. Checklist Republicans who are nothing more than administration toadies are good foot soldiers but aren't people you want to mold and shape the future. That takes debate, contemplation, and the willingness to admit mistakes in order to gain experience.
17 posted on 12/15/2004 7:41:37 AM PST by CompGeek
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To: churchillbuff
Although I personally believe that Sec. Rumsfeld has, from time to time, put his foot firmly in his mouth, I did not take his "go to war with the Army you have..." comment the way that McCain, Schwartzkopf and the MSM have. It is not being unduly critical of the Army as an institution, nor is it necessarily "dodging responsibility" to say that the situation on the ground in Iraq has presented a threat to our "rear area" support troops such as we have rarely faced in our history; a threat of which we were unaware, and for which we were unprepared.

I read some ding-dong female columnist in one of the posts today who said that Mr. Rumsfeld had "insulted our troops" by saying that the the "army we had" wasn't good enough. Obviously Sec. Rumsfeld was speaking of the inadequacy of existing equipment in the Iraq theater, not about our soldiers. Equally obviously the Left (in their new found devotion to the well-being of our soldiers) is spinning what the Defense Secretary said in a naked attempt to get back at the curmudgeon who put them in their place over Afghanistan and the initial phase of OIF, and very PR conscious celebrities like McCain and General Schwartzkopf are, for whatever reason, buying into the spin.

18 posted on 12/15/2004 8:34:23 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: churchillbuff
You think Schwarzkopf aids and abets terrorists?

Was my comment directed at Gen. Schwarzkopf? No. It was directed at you - a person who daily makes a conscious decision to publicly undermine the efforts of those troops you laughably claim you support.

You aid and abet terrorists.

19 posted on 12/15/2004 10:01:15 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: CompGeek
The knee-kerk, defend the administration at all costs, smear whoever opposes us attitude by some members of this site make me laugh.

What makes me laugh is the nimrods who throw blame without having a clue as to what's really involved.

I only wish we had more leaders like Sec. Rumsfeld.

20 posted on 12/15/2004 10:02:55 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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