Respecting Ramadan, Banning "Christmas" (School District Favors Muslims Over Christians)

"What is it going to take for parents to do a mass exodus and private or home school their kids?"

Cindy,

It is like the frog in a pan of slowly heating water. The American people have accommodated themselves to the government school culture.

On certain holy days of obligation. But the choice was public school or private school. In private school they would have attended mass.

"Since school officials only respect power, it's undoubtedly time to sue them individually and as a group for this sort of nonsense."

No,,,,It is time to declare government schools unconstitutional!

Why are government schools unconstitutional?

They are unconstitutional because NO school curriculum can be neutral. All schools must make choices as to what to include or exclude from its school policies and curriculum. In making these choices the government school WILL establish and uphold the religious beliefs of some, while undermining, diminishing, or creating a hostile religious environment for others.

This flap over Ramadan is merely one of THOUSANDS of issues on which the government school can not be religious neutral.

The following is an excellent essay on why government schools are unconstitutional:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter9.htm

"You have to attack public schools with money (or removal of money). It does not matter if 1/2 of all students are homeschooled, that leaves the other 1/2 to be indoctrinated with 100% of all the tax dollars."

Government schools need two things: students and money.

Homeschooling and private schooling starves the government schools of students. If these homeschool and private school parents go to the polls and vote NO to money for government schools then the schools are starved of money.

You said your children were in their 20s now.

In public school, years ago, where were you that we weren't given those days off for observance? I had holy days off when I was in public school.

Back in the old BBS days we had all the time we needed to edit our replies. Every word a Pulitzer. Heh. Times have changed, haven't they?

>>21 posted on 12/13/2004 10:42:59 PM CST by FreedomCalls

>180 posted on 12/09/2005 9:37:37 PM CST by Xenalyte

You're asking this a year later?

"Homeschooling is a personal choice, not a tax expense. Other taxpayers like me would be paying for others' personal choices. The solution is to keep homeschooling as a viable option (with not so much regulation, but if the child returns to public schools, he or she should be up to standard academically--something I have seen only once in nine years of teaching)." ( moog)

Moog,

Homeschooling mothers have a joke about the government school kids who are not up to standard. We find it hilariously funny.

Joke:
If a government school child is not up to "standard" should they be FORCED to homeschool?

Hm,,,,,,I have and Idea! Let's hold privately schooled and homeschooled children to the SAME standards that government officials hold their little charges! Since government schools graduate complete illiterates and innumerates from high schools then...hey!...That should be the minim "standard" for all.

My homeschooled children attended government school briefly. They too were declared HOPELESSLY not up to "standard".

But,,,,surprise, surprise,,,,they were admitted to college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13. Two graduated with B.S. degrees in mathematics at the age of 18. One just finished a masters degree in mathematics last August at the age of 20. The oldest is a little behind his siblings. He is an internationally and nationally ranked atheist. Before leaving on a church assignment, at the age of 19, he was a mere 13 courses shy of a B.S. degree in Accounting. He returned home recently and is not completely fluent in Russian.

Also,,,,Please remember that those sending their children to government schools are exercising their personal preference at other citizen's expense.

On Monday, as you drive down the freeway, please notice all the beautiful new and expensive cars. On the hill, you will see the mini-mansions. Will someone PLEASE hand these people a government school tuition bill! They are sucking the life's blood of those who are struggling on a lot less than they are so that their little worthies can attend "blue ribbon schools" and have door to door big yellow school bus service.

Government schools are a HUGE middle class entitlement and a government jobs program for an army of semi-educated white collar government workers.

I say organize the parents and kids to bring all of the Christmas paraphernalia they like, and just dare the schools to do something about it.

Need to sue them.

What my point is, religion should be able to be practiced anywhere and anytime a practitioner feels it is necessary. Regardless of whether they are Christian, Jewish, or Islamic(Phoenix)

Ah,,,phoenix...if the government school allowed free expression of religion, any time the student wished, chaos would reign. To prevent chaos the government school represses the First Amendment rights of the student to free speech, free press, free assembly, and free expression of religious belief.

Also,,,since the government school can NEVER be neutral in its curriculum and policy decisions, the government school WILL establish and uphold the cultural, and religious traditions of some while undermining those of other citizens.

This is why government school ARE unconstitutional.

The following is an excellent essay on the unconstitutionality of government schools:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter9.htm

Christmas has no requirements regarding fasting, prayer, etc., that would impact the school day, so it's not a parallel situation.
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Do you think there have been e-mails sent about the meaning of Lent to Catholics ? We should be cognizant of prayer periods mandated by Islam and accommodate that in school? We aren't even allowed to say "under God" during the pledge, and we certainly can't pray or even have a moment of silence to reflect during school time. Of course there are parallels here! The socialists are using the Islamists to help separate us from Christianity to usher in Godless socialist doctrine.

The problem I have with New York is abortion, it started there and a politician would never get elected without being prochoice. And the fact that the gay community trashed the Cathedral with condoms filled with sperm and threw them all over the church. And it happend more than once. Where was the outcry after the first time?

I can't speak to the abortion thing -- but I do remember the condom incident at St. Pats. The first time it happened was back in the 1980s. It was a radical gay guy who had some followers who targeted the Catholic church and the NY Cardinal. It caused a big scandal. At the time I had gay friends who explained the dynamics to me. There was a guy named larry kramer who started an organization called Gay Mens Health Crisis. He eventually got booted from the organization for being too radical, so he started an organization called Act Up that targeted the CDC, Reagan etc. with civil disobedience. The condom guy was too radical for that group and got kicked out, then did the St. Pats thing. Clearly the guy is out of his mind. At least that's my understanding of it.

For some reason, rodeo is almost as much a religion down here as NASCAR is.

And before the flames start, I am a Texas girl born and bred. I just don't see the utility in a month-long orgy of barrel-racin' and hog-chasin' and feedstock-showin' and cotton-candy-eatin' and diamonds-with-demin-wearin'.

I prefer smaller rodeos attached to county fairs. In particular I like ther cutting horses and talking to the 4H and Future Farmers kids about their animals.