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Armor Scarce for Big Trucks Transporting Cargo in Iraq
NYSlimes ^ | 12/10/04 | THOM SHANKER and ERIC SCHMITT

Posted on 12/10/2004 4:42:14 AM PST by Rebelbase

ASHINGTON, Dec. 9 - Congress released statistics Thursday documenting stark shortages in armor for the military transport trucks that ferry food, fuel and ammunition along dangerous routes in Iraq, while President Bush and his defense secretary both spoke out to defuse public criticism.

Soldiers confronted Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Wednesday with complaints that the Pentagon was sending them to war without enough armored equipment to protect them. One soldier who challenged Mr. Rumsfeld was apparently prompted by a reporter traveling with his unit. The commander of American ground forces in the Middle East responded Thursday to the complaints with a vow to provide armored transportation into Iraq for all troops headed there.

"The concerns expressed are being addressed, and that is, we expect our troops to have the best possible equipment," Mr. Bush said. "And I have told many families I met with, we're doing everything we possibly can to protect your loved ones in a mission which is vital and important."

The House Armed Services Committee released statistics on Thursday showing that while many Humvees are armored, most transport trucks that crisscross Iraq are not.

The committee said more than three-quarters of the 19,854 Humvees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Kuwait carry protective armor, which can vary in quality. The most secure are factory-armored Humvees, and the Pentagon has received only 5,910 of the 8,105 that commanders say they need. But only 10 percent of the 4,814 medium-weight transport trucks have armor, and only 15 percent of the 4,314 heavy transport vehicles.

The uproar has exposed some of the most crucial challenges facing the Pentagon: how to equip and train troops for a war whose very nature has changed.

A resourceful insurgency has seized on an American vulnerability - the shortage of armored vehicles - and attacked supply lines with roadside bombs. These trucks are driven primarily by reservists, while a much greater percentage of active-duty soldiers are deployed in direct combat, and disparities between these troops have already prompted the Defense Department to begin sweeping changes in the way soldiers are trained and equipped.

These issues gained new intensity and widespread attention because they were raised not in the safe confines of a Capitol Hill hearing or a Pentagon suite, but by a scout with the Tennessee National Guard who directly pressed the secretary of defense in the deserts of Kuwait just days before the soldier is to be sent into Iraq for a year.

At Camp Buehring, a staging base for American troops entering and leaving Iraq, the scout, Specialist Thomas Wilson, said his unit had been forced to dig through local landfills to find scrap metal to bolt onto their trucks for protection against roadside bombs. The incident was startling in part because of the soldier's willingness to challenge a cabinet official, but it emerged Thursday that a newspaper reporter embedded with the troops had helped orchestrate the questioning.

Mr. Rumsfeld, after leaving Kuwait for India, said it was valuable for senior officials to hear concerns directly from troops, but he offered no immediate changes in how the Army was reacting to the problems.

"I think that it's good for people to raise questions," he said. "It gives senior military leadership that has the responsibility for these matters a chance to hear them, talk to them."

Gone are the days when the American military could plan for fighting along dangerous front lines while relying on a relatively safe rear area for logistics.

"Last year, we began to see an increase in improvised explosive device attacks against our forces, primarily against convoys that were moving throughout Iraq," said Lt. Gen. R. Steven Whitcomb, commander of coalition ground forces in the Middle East. "And they began having an impact on our soldiers, a deadly impact, as we all know."

In a hastily arranged video news conference from Kuwait, General Whitcomb said the Army had since rushed armored vehicles to take troops into Iraq, and had hastened to add armor to others.

"I've got enough metal, I've got enough folks, and I've got enough time to meet our schedule that ensures that no combat unit in a wheeled vehicle goes into Iraq now that is not in an armored vehicle," he added. "So we're continuing to work feverishly to ensure that they meet our requirement, and that's that nobody goes north without it."

Continuing shortages have prompted soldiers going to Iraq to scrounge for steel and ballistic glass, improvising shields that have come to be called hillbilly armor.

At the transit camps in Kuwait, Army and Marine Corps drivers weld antishrapnel collars onto the hoods of their trucks, to deflect exploding debris while maintaining visibility. Sandbags are laid on the floors of Humvees, trimming the skimpy legroom from economy class to steerage. On the battlefield, there is an air of resigned acquiescence about the lack of armor, rather than bitter complaints. Among units that lack armored Humvees, the mood 20 months into the war tends more to black jokes than to recrimination.

"If they i.e.d. you in this thing, there won't be enough of you left to package up and send home," a Marine sergeant said earlier this week, as he showed embedded reporters to one of three open-backed Humvees assigned to a raid on a suspected rebel stronghold raid south of Baghdad. Among troops in Iraq, i.e.d., for improvised explosive device, is shorthand for the roadside bombs that have killed about two-thirds of Americans who have died in combat.

At briefings, commanders resort often to an old Marine adage, "Improvise, adjust, overcome," and are dismissive of complaints.

Yet others remain angry. "This is a big problem that demands immediate attention, and what you saw yesterday from Rumsfeld shows that he fails to understand what goes on the ground," said Paul Rieckhoff, a former infantry platoon leader with the Florida National Guard in Iraq who now runs an organization called Operation Truth , an advocacy group for soldiers and veterans. "This is a life or death situation for guys over there. Complacency, incompetency, or negligence, I don't know what other excuse there could be. But when these guys screw up, we bleed."

The kits to add extra protection to vehicles already in Iraq are being produced by the United States Army Matériel Command, where officials said they were scrambling to speed up the work and complete the most recent order from Iraq before the previous goal of March 2005. "We're trying to ramp up and accelerate the process, and there is a possibility we might meet the requirement prior to that time," said Tesia Williams, an Army spokeswoman.

At the same time, she defended the Army's efforts to date in armoring the Humvees used in Iraq. According to figures supplied by Ms. Williams, the Matériel Command first received orders for 1,000 kits in November 2003, followed by orders for 2,870 in December; 800 in January 2004; 2,090 in February; and 1,516 in April 2004. More orders received last summer brought the total order to 13,872, of which about 75 percent has been filled, she said.

Only some of the work has been contracted out, mainly to a plant in Ohio run by O'Gara-Hess & Eisenhardt, a unit of Armor Holdings. The rest of the kits are being produced by civilian employees of the Army working at depots in New York and six other states, where they are using laser-cutting machines to cut steel purchased directly from two mills.

Armor Holdings also produces armor for new Humvees, and the company said it told the Army last month that it had the capacity to increase its production to 550 vehicles a month, compared with the 450 vehicles is handling now.

Military officers at the Pentagon expressed no surprise that it was a member of the National Guard who raised the issue with Mr. Rumsfeld. Already, the length and number of Guard tours and the number of their members killed and wounded have imposed unexpected stresses on the Guard and Reserves, whose members have not always been as well trained and equipped as active-duty members.

The system for training, equipping, mobilizing and deploying reservists was not ready for the historic increase in call-ups since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, officials acknowledged. The Guard and Reserves clocked nearly 63 million duty days last year, more than five times the totals recorded annually in the late 1990's. As of Wednesday, the total National Guard and Reserve personnel on duty around the world and in the United States stood at 185,019.

Democrats in Congress rushed into the debate on Thursday, saying one of Mr. Rumsfeld's chief duties was making sure that the troops would be safe.

Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and one of the harshest critics of the administration's Iraq policies, said troops lack some protective equipment, in part, because of the urgency with which the United States went to war.

"This was a war of choice, not necessity, to be waged on our timetable, not Saddam's," Mr. Biden said in a statement. "And why is it that, 20 months after Saddam's statue fell, our troops still don't have the protection they need? Congress has given this administration virtually every dollar it has asked for in Iraq."


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Now the focus is shifting from lack of armor on Hummmers to the supply trucks not having armor.

Has there ever been an armored supply truck in US military history?

My contempt for the MSM is beyond words.

1 posted on 12/10/2004 4:42:14 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

If you weigh down the trucks with heavy armour, don't they stop being useful as trucks? Plus the possible issues with axle-breaking and top-heavy roll hazards?


2 posted on 12/10/2004 4:50:10 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Rebelbase

If we had had this press back in 1944, all we'd be hearing about is what a scandal it was that American tanks in Normandy weren't equipped to bust through hedgerows. The military is not going to get *everything* right the first time and there are going to be mistakes. Report on them, but also report on them being corrected.

}:-)4


3 posted on 12/10/2004 4:51:56 AM PST by Moose4 ("Frrrrrrrrrp." --Livingston the Viking Kitty)
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To: Rebelbase
The incident was startling in part because of the soldier's willingness to challenge a cabinet official, but it emerged Thursday that a newspaper reporter embedded with the troops had helped orchestrate the questioning. So I suppose this reporter would submit a bigger chunk of his taxes to provide armour for every vehicle. I pray this soldier is taken to task by his buddies for his contempt for POTUS. If it were not for FR, we would never hear about heroic soldier, just whiny ones.
4 posted on 12/10/2004 4:52:16 AM PST by momincombatboots (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Rebelbase
You might not quite understand what they mean by "armored".

This has to do with having metal around the driver and any passenger(s) sufficient to deflect or stop small arms fire and lower velocity shrapnel.

You will also find folks referring to non-metalic foams and pads as armor, as in "body armor". These guys are not going out looking like Imperial guards from Star Wars.

As the Secretary pointed out in his response, a road-side bomb made out of an artillery shell can probably blow a hole in an heavily armored tank ~ so there are real limits to what can be done with today's primitive technology.

Someday, though, there will be heavily armored supply trucks!

5 posted on 12/10/2004 4:53:48 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: momincombatboots
Hey, tax dollars? Sure! Spend the whole federal budget on armor for these guys.

You got a problem with that? Our troops deserve the very best.

6 posted on 12/10/2004 4:55:31 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: agere_contra

Not only that but some of the other downsides are, the vehicle wasn't designed for it causing higher breakdown rates, faster engine wear, less range between fuel stops, and less speed just to name a few.


7 posted on 12/10/2004 4:57:14 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (This space for rant)
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To: agere_contra
If you weigh down the trucks with heavy armour, don't they stop being useful as trucks? Plus the possible issues with axle-breaking and top-heavy roll hazards?

Add armour and you reduce the vehicles cargo rating. The reduction in cargo rating then requires either more vehicles to transport a given amount of cargo or more supply runs from the same number of vehicles. either way, the risk of an attack increases with the increase in supply missions or number of vehicles.

8 posted on 12/10/2004 4:58:07 AM PST by fso301
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To: Rebelbase

"The committee said more than three-quarters of the 19,854 Humvees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Kuwait carry protective armor, which can vary in quality. The most secure are factory-armored Humvees, and the Pentagon has received only 5,910 of the 8,105 that commanders say they need. But only 10 percent of the 4,814 medium-weight transport trucks have armor, and only 15 percent of the 4,314 heavy transport vehicles."

Something else is missing here -- a little perspective. Don't we have 150,000 troops in Iraq? And here we see 29,000 vehicles listed -- about one vehicle for every five troops, right? Is every one of those troops in every one of those vehicles 24 hours a day? I don't think so. So what's wrong with matching the vehicle armor with the level of danger for the mission? Hmmmmm...?


9 posted on 12/10/2004 4:58:41 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little perspective cures a lot of political insanity)
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To: agere_contra

The problem with all of these articles on armor on vehicles is that if you combine it with the other article about how low the death rate and how high the survival rate has been from battle field injuries then you realize that on the whole the troops are better prepared.

Yes, the vehicles could have more armor but I suspect that if they did then the press would be discussing some other shortfall in the field.


10 posted on 12/10/2004 4:58:47 AM PST by dleach
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To: agere_contra
If you weigh down the trucks with heavy armour, don't they stop being useful as trucks? Plus the possible issues with axle-breaking and top-heavy roll hazards?

At least with the Humvee, broken axles and impaired maneuverability are problems.  Or so says my son who recently returned from Afghanistan.

11 posted on 12/10/2004 4:59:24 AM PST by Racehorse
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To: Rebelbase

(i)Has there ever been an armored supply truck in US military history?(/i)

Has there ever been a need as severe in military history?

I don't see why there is a shortage of underbody armor. It ain't
like money has not been available.


12 posted on 12/10/2004 5:00:24 AM PST by dwilli
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To: Rebelbase

I've been a part of the military all my life...daughter of career USAF office, now married to an Army 1sg....many years....since when has the media cared about the troops?....where were they in the 90's when my hubby's unit had to canablize their choppers, no fuel to fly, no raises.......oh wait, Bush wasn't Prez then!......


13 posted on 12/10/2004 5:04:16 AM PST by mystery-ak (Please pray for Maj Tammy Duckworth)
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To: Rebelbase

Why dont the troops have armored tents?!!!
This is an outrage!!

/sarc

This story is really pissing me off. people outraged that war is dangerous. sheesh


14 posted on 12/10/2004 5:05:21 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

You're riding the barcolounger, they have no need for underbody
armor unless your family decides you're worth more dead than alive.


15 posted on 12/10/2004 5:08:06 AM PST by dwilli
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To: Rebelbase

Hey, I'm all for cutting out welfare benefits to slugs and putting the money into our troops in Iraq. While we're at it, let's eliminate dues to the United Nations and the ACLU. There are better places to spend our tax dollars - namely on our troops!


16 posted on 12/10/2004 5:08:16 AM PST by onevoter
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To: dwilli
Speaking only as a manufacturing engineer, the issue seems to be the steel. There is only one plant that can make it. They have gone to 24x7 operations. No company is willing to create a very expensive manufacturing operation that will only last for 1 or 2 years. In WWII we converted commercial plants to make vehicles and aircraft initially, that is how we got by in the early days. Real military production took a while to get going.
Didn't we have a problem with ammunition a while back? It took a month or two to get over the hump, but that problem seems to have gone away.
A lot of the problem can be traced back to the altruistic belief that once the Soviet Union was gone war was gone. We need to be gearing up for war with China now.
17 posted on 12/10/2004 5:08:40 AM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: geedee; Howlin; Rebelbase

I'm shocked....shocked, I say......


18 posted on 12/10/2004 5:11:29 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Moose4
...."Culin's Hedgerow Cutter", made from recycled German beach obstacles, and considered an example of an innovative American battlefield modification.

Note also the sandbags piled on the front of the hull, to protect the tank from the German RPGs.

No, after reports of shells bouncing off the front armor of the German Tiger tanks, the New York Times would have advocated cutting and running from Normandy. And we'd all be speaking German today.

19 posted on 12/10/2004 5:11:44 AM PST by Sooth2222
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To: Racehorse

I broke an axle on a hummer going up a mountain.
It didnt have any armor on it, it was loaded with lots of gear though.

Being in a hummer that is barreling down a mountain backwards is a real eyeopener!

Maybe I should bitch Rummy out?


20 posted on 12/10/2004 5:12:20 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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