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To: LouAvul
Let me see if I understand this... If the police wanted to listen into the call, the kids couldn't grant consent because they're under 18 and it would require parental permission. But if a parent listens in, they're committing a crime?

And since when does an error committed by a civilian affect a trial? The parent did wrong, but it is the state who is punished?

If a buddy of his came forward telling about the crime, admitting that he helped his bud get away, that would be considered valid evidence.

This is just plain stupid, through and through. Shame that no legislature has the guts to impeach these idiots and get them off the bench.
8 posted on 12/09/2004 11:20:55 PM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: kingu
Shame that no legislature has the guts to impeach these idiots and get them off the bench.

same goes for the federal arena as well...

9 posted on 12/09/2004 11:23:24 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: kingu

From what I remember from same law classes I took a while ago . . .

The evidence that the mother obtained via listening in on a conversation was obtained "illegally" and it, as well as any evidence obtained thereafter which can not be shown to have been obtainable without the "tainted" evidence, is not admissable.

It makes no difference whether the person obtaining the evidence is acting as an officer of the state. The theory being that the state could quite easily circumvent the 4th Ammendment by instigating an illegal act (B&E for example) to obtain evidence instead of obtaining a search warrent.

You example of a partner who decides to rat out does not fit in the above scenario as he was privvy to the conversation / the criminal act and can decide, of his own free will, to make public what he knows.

In the case in question, the judges have decided "correctly" and applied the law as written and intended. The DA should have known better than to use such evidence in trial (and the trial judge should have disallowed it!!). The re-trail will most likely let the perp go free - but this is a mistake of the DA and he should be held accountable.


32 posted on 12/10/2004 12:50:57 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate ((This space for let))
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