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To: blackeagle

I almost don't want to comment after seeing all the opposition here, but I think its good and bad. There were good things in this bill that we need. Sure there are things that were left out, and that just leaves us more to fight for. Still, this bill wasn't all bad, it had some good stuff in it. Just an opinion. Attack all you want.


11 posted on 12/07/2004 4:58:40 PM PST by Jay777
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To: Jay777

No attack from me, I agree with you.


17 posted on 12/07/2004 5:01:45 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Snappy, witty, humerous tagline needed! Will pay in Marlboro Miles...)
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To: Jay777

it did have some good but it was overwhelimingly a bad bill. it does more to tie the hands of this country than it does to free the shackles. the national intelligence "czar" was just a horrible idea all togther. whoever had the bright idea of listening to the 911 comission needs to have their head examined.


22 posted on 12/07/2004 5:02:57 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: Jay777

Sure, this will be as effective as Campaign Finance Reform.


27 posted on 12/07/2004 5:09:37 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Jay777

Go back to The Day in Photos...


47 posted on 12/07/2004 5:25:47 PM PST by KiloLima (www.opgratitude.com = Give, you will feel better.)
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To: Jay777

Yes, there *are* some good things in this bill, but the reality is that it doesn't do a whole hell of a lot to protect us. Much of it is feel-good nonsense that plays well to simpletons and paper-shuffling.


89 posted on 12/07/2004 6:08:20 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick (www.Hillary-Watch.org)
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To: Jay777

I'm not going to attack you, but this bill is totally worthless.

We had tens of thousands of CIA, NSA and other top national security people on the job before 09/11.

Any guy given 15 minutes with fairly average intelligence would know planes could be used as the weapons they were.

We facilitated the entry of 19 people from terrorist states, directly, or indirectly into our nation. They lied their asses off to gain entry. They obtained driver's licenses and had free reign of the nation.

After this bill has been implemented, there very same thing can and will still happen.

We got the cheerleaders out. They won the day. We reorganized the deck chairs and we implemented more layers of beurocracy.

19 men committed the 09/11 acts. Today upwards of 7,000 people came across our borders without being checked.

But for the grace of God, Arnold Schwarzenegger rescinded the ability for illegal aliens to obtain driver's license in California. It was already in the works. If Davis would have won his bid to defeat the recall, tens if not hundreds of thousands of illegals would already have them. Once they have these documents, they can manipulate the system. For all intents and purposes, the driver's license is the defacto homeland passport. It also facilitates other documents and access to a wide range of services.

Our elected officials are a laughing stock. Our President might just as well be the President of Mexico for all the good he did us on this bill. NOT ONE MEMBER OF AL QAEDA THAT AVOIDS A STATIONARY CHECKPOINT WILL BE STOPPED AT OUR BORDERS DUE TO HIS BILL. NOT EVEN ONE!

Did you know that a known terrorist from a foreign state can present themselves at our border and claim amnesty? Did you know that knowing he is a terrorist, we will still allow them in if they claim they will be persecuted at home? It's the truth.

Tom Tancredo addressed the issue of a Jordanian that plotted to attack the American school in Jordan. He was discoverd and prevented from carrying out this act. Later he presented himself in the United States, claiming he would be persecuted if he was sent back to Jordan. We let him in.

The issue is still in court, but the guy is walking the streets in the meantime.

NONE OF THIS will be corrected due to this bill.

NOT ONE STINKING BIT OF IT!

May God hold the people who are resposible for passing this bill, accountable when the next act of terrorism occurs.


113 posted on 12/07/2004 7:37:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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