Honestly I have never seen anyone trash those agencies. In fact, I have seen, on this forum the utmost respect for them. I think, and rightly so, that the politicians have been trashed. It's the politicians who pander, disregard the law in favor of illegal aliens and create roadblocks to the enforcement of existing laws. Then there is the issue of the judicial system that usurps and legislates from the bench.
People around here throw around terms like "sealing" the borders as if it were something that was actually possible, and it ticks me off.
Of course it's possible. We just have to convince the politicians of that. At the same time we need to create as hostile an environment as possible, through enforcement of the current punative laws, against employers and enablers of illegals. It has to start there. We can make millions of laws but if no one enforces them what's the point?
As far as the personal invective I thought you were asking your question from an adversarial point of view. If you weren't stringing me along then I apologize. There are a few on this forum to whom illegal aliens are their bread and butter. It sounded as though you were one of them.
You're wasting your breath man.
He's going to screw with you with a list of arguements, that he has no real concern over.
Then he's going to get drunk and pass out.
And be back tomorrow arguing what he missed tonite.
I believe TROLL would be the proper term.
Around here, trashing of those standing a post on the border has become good sport. Almost as good a sport as trashing the TSA folks at the airport.
I would agree that a good place to enforce immigration is at the employer. Sounds like a good idea.
I disagree, however, that "sealing" the border is something simple, or even possible. A couple of divisions of Marines on the border wouldn't stop it. It might cut it down by some percentage points, but the border is just too long and there are too many ways around it. Build a hundred-foot wall and mine the first mile for the whole distance, and probably 80% would still get through by some other route.
We got people into and out of East Germany pretty much at will throughout the whole of the cold war.