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Scientists Reverse Paralysis in Dogs
My Way News ^ | Dec 3, 2004 | RICK CALLAHAN

Posted on 12/03/2004 4:07:48 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

One small step for dog,...


21 posted on 12/03/2004 6:01:12 PM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: neverdem

The article mentions a protective seal over the nerves. I wonder if this could be used in some way with MS patients?


22 posted on 12/03/2004 6:12:19 PM PST by sunshine state
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To: neverdem

Pleae put me on your health ping list.
Thanks.


23 posted on 12/03/2004 6:20:50 PM PST by Travelgirl
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To: sunshine state

Or burn victims?


24 posted on 12/03/2004 7:49:29 PM PST by skr (A Blessed Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all!)
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To: Doe Eyes
Most of your vehicle antifreeze is made by Ethylene Glycol, a toxic derivative made from ethanol streams. Ethanol Streams are what refineries produce as as secondary in order to heat your home, Gas up your car, run your weed whacker etc.
Propylene Glycol is a different derivative like sugar, and
has been proven to be Harmless.
Your mechanic may have poured some of this(PG as opposed to EG) into your auto recently for your winter checkup.
PG is used in so many things, hand cream, toothpaste, etc.
It's called Propylene Glycol and if you look at your shampoo, shaving cream, deodorant, makeup, etc.. you will find it. Sometimes it's Politically correct name is p...whatever glycol.
25 posted on 12/03/2004 7:50:37 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: sunshine state
The article mentions a protective seal over the nerves. I wonder if this could be used in some way with MS patients?

"His team has even fused severed guinea pig spinal cords using PEG, although the dogs in the study had spinal disc ruptures that crushed, but did not sever, their spinal cords.

"Although exactly how PEG works remains unclear, Borgens said it appears to act as a sort of "molecular Band-Aid" that forms a temporary seal over breaches in nerve cells in the spinal cord, aiding their healing process.

"This stuff is kind of like a radiator stop-leak for the nervous system. The polymer spreads out and forms a seal over the damaged areas in the nerve cells and allows the membrane below to reconstruct itself," said Borgens, director of Purdue's Center for Paralysis Research.

"He said PEG also appears to prevent secondary tissue death that often causes more damage than the original injury. Borgens said the agent only covers damaged cells and tissues when injected into the blood stream."

This story deals with mechanical injury to the spinal cord. I'm pretty sure what is meant by secondary tissue death is the formation of scar tissue. I believe the PEG, like the steroids, is decreasing or inhibiting the natural inflammatory response. Maybe the PEG just forms a mechanical barrier somehow around the lesion.

When the spinal cord is cut the normal inflammatory response initiates a process that eventually grows scar tissue at the site of the cut. The nerves try to regrow to repair themselves, but they're stymied by the scar tissue.

MS fits the auto-immune model of disease in which the bodies immune system is tricked into attacking the myelin sheaths surrounding the axons of nerve cells. I don't think PEG would help MS patients, but if it is that safe, somebody will probably try. The story wasn't that specific in the technique used to give the drug other than injected into the bloodstream. That usually means intravenous, but maybe they somehow injected it into an artery just before the lesion. I read the abstract of one article in which they said the PEG was administered subcutaneously. I went to PubMed and entered PEG AND spinal cord trauma. Here's a link. That abstract links to the whole article. Also check related links.

26 posted on 12/03/2004 8:12:52 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: acapesket; Doe Eyes
This stuff is the polymer of ethylene glycol, hence polyethyleneglycol or PEG.
27 posted on 12/03/2004 8:19:05 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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28 posted on 12/03/2004 8:20:15 PM PST by sayfer bullets
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To: neverdem

Wow! Bump.


29 posted on 12/03/2004 8:23:44 PM PST by chuknospam
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the info. I have a dear friend with MS and it has been frightening to watch the progression of this disease. I guess I'm always hoping.


30 posted on 12/03/2004 8:25:27 PM PST by sunshine state
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To: skr
Or burn victims? Check the link near the end of comment# 26. PEG seems mainly to be useful after the mechanical trauma of nervous tissue.
31 posted on 12/03/2004 8:25:57 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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LOL! Cool screen name!


32 posted on 12/03/2004 8:32:05 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Calling polyethylene glycol a relative of antifreeze is about as accurate as calling water a relative of air.


33 posted on 12/03/2004 8:35:38 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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Isn't that the (polyethylene glycol) substance used in lots of cosmetics?


34 posted on 12/03/2004 8:46:38 PM PST by Spirited
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To: neverdem

"I can't!"

"Can't what?"

"I cann't inject you with window cleaner..."

"I don mind!!! Say what's it do any way????"

"It makes your brain die last..."

"I don Mind!!!!!!!"





35 posted on 12/03/2004 8:48:49 PM PST by The Drowning Witch (Sono La Voce della Nazione Selvaggia)
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To: Spirited

Yes. It's a huge polymer; oxidized polyethelyne (plastic) roughly speaking. I don't have a clue why it would help paralysis though.


36 posted on 12/03/2004 8:49:04 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: neverdem

"Have no fear.... UNNNNNNDERDOG is here!!"

37 posted on 12/03/2004 8:51:35 PM PST by Jackknife (.......Land of the Free,because of the Brave.)
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To: neverdem

While not as good as if Kerry was elected. But Pres. Bush is elected dogs will get up and walk.


38 posted on 12/03/2004 8:56:02 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: neverdem

This can't be. Didn't Edwards tell us that we needed to elect Kerry to see the lame walk again?


39 posted on 12/03/2004 8:59:43 PM PST by Jorge
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To: neverdem

For the record, I am amazed that any PubMed links work on my home computer. Even at work, most of them don't work.

I never would have dreamed of injecting PEG into living organisms, for any reason. I wonder what makes people think of doing stuff like that--"Hey, I think I'll take this here laboratory reagent and inject it into an animal! Who knows, something might come of it!"


40 posted on 12/03/2004 9:30:18 PM PST by exDemMom (Victory! Victory! Victory!)
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