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NEVADA: JUDGE TO CHALLENGE BUSH VICTORY? (This is truly unprecedented garbage)

Posted on 11/30/2004 7:32:24 AM PST by dascallie

NEVADA: JUDGE TO CHALLENGE BUSH VICTORY

By SCOTT SONNER Associated Press Writer

RENO, Nev. (AP) -- A judge intends to decide Tuesday whether to allow a legal challenge to move forward aimed at blocking Nevada's five electoral votes from being cast next month for President Bush.

Washoe County District Judge Peter Breen said Monday he's considering setting an evidentiary hearing to determine whether there are grounds to keep the votes from Bush - who carried Nevada by 21,500 votes - due to allegations of voter registration fraud and claims some voting machines malfunctioned.

Breen said he'd issue a written ruling Tuesday on a motion to dismiss the case based in part on arguments that it is a moot point given that Bush won nationally by a margin of 34 electoral votes, 286-252. He heard lawyers' arguments on the matter for about 2.5 hours Monday.

The Nevada Supreme Court formally canvassed the vote last week and Secretary of State Dean Heller, a Republican, certified the results.

"The train has left the station and the results could not possibly change," said Rew Goodenow, a lawyer representing the five Republican electors scheduled to cast Nevada's votes Dec. 13.

"The winner in this election has been declared under the laws of the state of Nevada," he told Breen in urging the case be thrown out.

"Elections have one endearing and wonderful quality - the quality of finality. At some point the election has to be final. This one is, and the court ought not meddle with that," Goodenow said.

Breen acknowledged "the issue of mootness" was an important question.

"As the electoral vote stands, there is no way this court can affect the outcome," he said.

But Jeff Dickerson, a Reno lawyer representing those contesting the election results, said that even if Nevada's electoral votes don't impact the national election "it does make a difference to Nevada."

"President Bush is claiming he has a mandate and included in that is that the state of Nevada stood behind him. Even if Nevada's five electoral votes will not change the election, it does have an impact on whether Nevada is part of that mandate," Dickerson said.

`If there are disenfranchised voters who were illegally disenfranchised ... then those voters are not having their will voiced," he said.

Rick Newell Davis of Minden filed the formal contest of the election results earlier this month. He said thousands of Nevadans may have been denied the right to vote Nov. 2 because of registration problems and should still be allowed to cast ballots.

The challenge names the GOP electors as defendants - Joe Brown and Milton Schwartz of Las Vegas, John Marvel of Battle Mountain, Bev Willard of Carson City and Paul Willis of Pahrump.

Both major parties elect their party's electors at their state conventions prior to the election, and the winning party's electors are bound by state law to cast the electoral votes for the candidate who carried Nevada.

Bush won 418,690 votes in Nevada (50.5 percent) to Kerry's 397,190 (47.9 percent). Bush also narrowly won Nevada in 2000 after Democrat Bill Clinton had won twice before.

Davis said many Nevadans were deprived of the right to vote as a result of activities by a voter registration organization financed by the Republican National Committee.

Some former workers for Voter Outreach of America, operated by Sproul and Associates of Phoenix, who registered voters in Nevada and other battleground states have alleged they were told to register only Republicans and to ignore pro-Kerry people. Some said that completed Democratic registration forms were thrown out or ripped up.

The head of the company, Nathan Sproul - a former Christian Coalition activist and one-time executive director of the Arizona GOP - has denied any wrongdoing.

Goodenow said Monday there is no legal avenue under state law for Breen to reopen voting in Nevada.

Only the Nevada Legislature has the authority to set the time for statewide elections, he said. Therefore, if Breen grants the challenge, it likely would result only in a nullification of the election results in Nevada, Goodenow said.

"The potential result would be simply awful - that Nevada votes would not count in the electoral college," he said.

"Nevada would have no voice in this presidential election." http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NV_ELECTION_CONT...


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1 posted on 11/30/2004 7:32:24 AM PST by dascallie
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To: dascallie
A judge intends to decide Tuesday whether to allow a legal challenge to move forward aimed at blocking Nevada's five electoral votes from being cast next month for President Bush.

The Sore Loserman Democrats strike again!

2 posted on 11/30/2004 7:33:58 AM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: dascallie

FYI: post a source link.


3 posted on 11/30/2004 7:34:17 AM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: dascallie

If you don't like the outcome, go to court.


4 posted on 11/30/2004 7:34:29 AM PST by dc27
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To: dascallie
"The potential result would be simply awful - that Nevada votes would not count in the electoral college," he said.

Do the Democrats care about disenfranchising all the people that voted? No way.

5 posted on 11/30/2004 7:35:17 AM PST by rhombus
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To: dascallie

no legality in reopening the vote? that wont stop a liberal!!! come on now!!!! We know there were 22,000 Nevadans that didnt vote because they were disenfranchised.... LOL /sarcasm


6 posted on 11/30/2004 7:35:43 AM PST by MikefromOhio (40 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: dascallie

They want to play this game, fine, then they better show up in Philly next to conquer the voter fraud here.


7 posted on 11/30/2004 7:37:11 AM PST by kx9088
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To: dascallie
"President Bush is claiming he has a mandate and included in that is that the state of Nevada stood behind him. Even if Nevada's five electoral votes will not change the election, it does have an impact on whether Nevada is part of that mandate," Dickerson said.

In other words, this is because Bush won.

8 posted on 11/30/2004 7:37:19 AM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: dascallie
Already posted...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1291051/posts

9 posted on 11/30/2004 7:37:20 AM PST by TheBigB (I sure could go for a charbroiled hamburger sammich and some french fried potatoes!)
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To: dascallie; All

Unless the Judge is the Plaintiff, this headline is a bit misleading.


10 posted on 11/30/2004 7:38:51 AM PST by Iron Eagle
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To: Prime Choice

Reno Gazette-Journal Online


11 posted on 11/30/2004 7:39:18 AM PST by dascallie
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To: Prime Choice

Sounds like a story one would find in the "Marxist-Leninist Daily."


12 posted on 11/30/2004 7:39:41 AM PST by 2ThumbsUp
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To: dascallie

With a Democratic judge, you never know. Like Nevada's votes matter now. Bush would still win without them.


13 posted on 11/30/2004 7:39:44 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Prime Choice
Unauthorized Posting Police?

You could've screamed at him for duplicate too.

14 posted on 11/30/2004 7:42:39 AM PST by Principled
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To: Prime Choice

Here's one source...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/11/29/state1820EST0095.DTL


15 posted on 11/30/2004 7:43:34 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: dc27
The liberal Bush haters have crossed the line with this garbage.The time has come for the silent majority in this country to rise up and put this group of sore losing trash in its place.They have a win at all cost attitude that continues to damage this country at a time it can't be tolerated.A good place to start would be a bitch slap to the face of the mumblimg fool Jesse Jerkson that knocks his bug eyes back inside his hollow head.
16 posted on 11/30/2004 7:45:11 AM PST by rdcorso (Did I mention I was in Vietnam where I lost my backbone? Spineless John)
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To: MikeinIraq

Many were unable to leave the casino. Its a well kept secret that casinos do not want you to leave and they pull all sorts of dirty tricks to keep you in including locking the doors.


17 posted on 11/30/2004 7:45:52 AM PST by winodog (We need to water the liberty tree)
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To: dascallie
Reno Gazette-Journal Online

No, I said link...as in URL. Not the name of the newspaper.

This is the link: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NV_ELECTION_CONTEST_1ST_LD_WRITETHRU_NVOL-?SITE=NVREN&SECTION=HOME

18 posted on 11/30/2004 7:46:25 AM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: Principled
You could've screamed at him for duplicate too.

Eh...I'm warming up. Haven't had enough coffee yet. *URP*

19 posted on 11/30/2004 7:47:08 AM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: dascallie
The Constitution gives the judicial role in determining a state's electoral vote. This job is given to the state legislatures.
20 posted on 11/30/2004 7:53:16 AM PST by Pfesser (Georgia: The 1st Red State called.)
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