A question to the "Ukrainians"

[A. Pole]

I have the following question:

I see that many Ukrainians claim that Russia is not the legitimate inheritor of Kievan Rus, that the present Ukraine is.

Do you want to change the name of Ukraine into "Rus"? If not, why?

[A. Pole]

Ping

[cake_crumb]

Interesting question

[KOZ.]

because its been ukraine for awhile. no need to change it.

[GSlob]

Why not into "Varyagshchina" (or "Varangiya") then? It would completely avoid even phonetic similarity with 'Rus' and a lot of associated unpleasant memories.

[Conservative Canuck]

Because the Russians (Stalin) committed genocide on the Ukranian people in the 1920s and 30s, decimating the population. After cleansing the region, ethnic Russians moved in to occupy, overwhelming the few Ukranians left...

[A. Pole]

Because the Russians (Stalin) committed genocide on the Ukranian people in the 1920s and 30s, decimating the population. After cleansing the region, ethnic Russians moved in to occupy, overwhelming the few Ukranians left...

I have been thinking that Stalin was Georgian. Anyway, I find your answer a little unusual.

[microgood]

Just don't change it to Maecedonia.

[anniegetyourgun]

How 'bout they just call the whole country Chornobyl? Could really boost tourism, eh?

[Conservative Canuck]

True enough, Stalin was born in Georgia, but he was an ethnic Russian.

Check this out: http://www.ppu.org.uk/genocide/g_ukraine.html

[A. Pole]

True enough, Stalin was born in Georgia, but he was an ethnic Russian.

Then the Ukrainians must be ethnic Italians.

[aliquis]

Why Varangya? Has it got anything to do with Rurik dynasty? Then, perhaps, Varyaghia? But Rurik was summoned to Novgorod, not Kiev. In a way, you could say, Rus' started off in Novgorod, rather then Kiev...

As to the question of Rus', however, I'd say, there are too many residual negative emotions associated with the word Russia - Rus' - in the western half of Ukraine. The whole thing looks more like a typical geopolitical spat over the influence over Central Europe then a genuine concern of promoting democracy in Ukraine. It's a very delicate situation.

[aliquis]

No, he was an ethnic Georgian, Iosif Djugashvili.

[tarator]

True enough, Stalin was born in Georgia, but he was an ethnic Russian.

Wrong. Stalin was an ethnic Georgian. No Russian name ever ended in "shvili".

[Grzegorz 246]

Nice keyword someone added to your thread.

[A. Pole]

Nice keyword someone added to your thread.

It was his name.

[Lukasz]

He is Georgian for sure.

[KOZ.]

Then the Ukrainians must be ethnic Italians

you must be an ethnic ass.
creating a thread to bash ukes? trying to spread soviet propoganda a like budding little dictatator. father lenin would be proud of you.

[Conservative Canuck]

I dunno about the Iraq connection, but I stand corrected. He was Georgian, but learned only Russian in school. Leftist that link may be, but it is factual. Here's another link: http://www.infoukes.com/history/famine. Same info.