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Russian Political Scientist Blames Polish Conspiracy for Ukraine Election Crisis
Mosnews ^ | Nov. 25, 2004 | Mosnews

Posted on 11/25/2004 9:31:55 AM PST by FairOpinion

Renowned Russian political scientist Sergei Markov told reporters in Moscow on Thursday that the ongoing political crisis in Ukraine was in fact a Polish conspiracy with the aim of imposing Polish patronage over Ukraine and thus raising Polish influence within the European Union.

“Yushchenko’s electoral campaign has been developed within the Polish diaspora abroad and its ideological basis was prepared by former U.S. national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski and his two sons,” the Newsru.com web-site quoted Markov as saying.

Markov said that another ethnic Pole, Andrian Karatnitsky, the head of the U.S. foundation Freedom House, had hired Serbian spin doctors and brought them to Ukraine ahead of the presidential elections. (Another Russian political scientist, Gleb Pavlovsky, said in a Wednesday evening news broadcast on Russia’s RTR television channel that Yushchenko’s campaign had been prepared by the same specialists who prepared similar campaigns in Serbia and Georgia).

“The arrival of Lech Walesa and Aleksander Kwasniewski as intermediaries in the Ukraine negotiations would become a part of the Tbilisi-Belgrade scenario, as the objective of these intermediaries is not peace, but a passing of power to Yushchenko,” Markov said.

He added that the original plan is for Poland to impose its patronage over Ukraine. Polish politicians are seeking more influence within the European Union, currently dominated by France and Germany, and to achieve this, they want to become patrons of the whole of Central and Eastern Europe, the Russian analyst said.

Markov said the United States would benefit from a Yushchenko victory as it would weaken Germany and France on the world arena and also split Ukraine and Russia. He also added that “the majority of the representatives of the Polish diaspora in the United States hate George Bush and want to cause a quarrel between him and Russian President Vladimir Putin”.

Markov also said that the main drawback of the plan was that its implementation was possible only on condition of extreme secrecy. He reminded the press that due to historical reasons the Ukrainians are very suspicious of the Poles and such a plan would find widespread disapproval among the majority of Ukrainians.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blame; brzezinski; conspiracy; freedomhouse; poland; propaganda; ukraine; usip
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Food for thought...
1 posted on 11/25/2004 9:31:55 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: MarMema

"He also added that “the majority of the representatives of the Polish diaspora in the United States hate George Bush and want to cause a quarrel between him and Russian President Vladimir Putin”.


As we said...


2 posted on 11/25/2004 9:33:32 AM PST by FairOpinion (Happy Thanksgiving!)
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To: FairOpinion; katnip; DTA; cicero's_son; nw_arizona_granny
He also added that “the majority of the representatives of the Polish diaspora in the United States hate George Bush and want to cause a quarrel between him and Russian President Vladimir Putin”.

More than food for thought, extremely revealing and fascinating, in light of the posts all day yesterday here.

3 posted on 11/25/2004 9:35:37 AM PST by MarMema
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To: FairOpinion

Now our Russian Freepers have some propaganda to be happy with! ROTFL


4 posted on 11/25/2004 9:37:46 AM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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To: FairOpinion

At least the Joooos appear blameless in this instance. /sarcasm>


5 posted on 11/25/2004 9:38:05 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: FairOpinion

Didn't see your post before I put mine up, was busy adding names to the ping...


6 posted on 11/25/2004 9:38:13 AM PST by MarMema
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To: jb6; Destro; A. Pole

ping


7 posted on 11/25/2004 9:38:46 AM PST by MarMema
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To: FairOpinion

Seriously it is the effect of the Russian desperation...


8 posted on 11/25/2004 9:38:48 AM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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To: Lukasz
Renowned Russian political scientist Sergei Markov told reporters in Moscow on Thursday that the ongoing political crisis in Ukraine was in fact a Polish conspiracy with the aim of imposing Polish patronage over Ukraine and thus raising Polish influence within the European Union.

You don't think maybe he is trying to make a point here?

9 posted on 11/25/2004 9:41:12 AM PST by MarMema
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To: FairOpinion

What a pile of Russian nationalistic clinton.
Huntington's "Clash" contains a few pages on the civilizationally split nature of Ukraine: Eastern Ukraine is a part of Orthodox civilization (i.e. in Russia orbit), while Western Ukraine has different (Uniate) heritage and civilzational nature and gravitates to the West (historically through Poland and Austria-Hungary). So to use [Orthodox] Serbs there would be heights of stupidity. Catholic Croats would do much better in Uniate Western Ukraine.


10 posted on 11/25/2004 9:42:11 AM PST by GSlob
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Oh sorry, that's right. There can be anti-Russian conspiracies, but never anti-Polish conspiracies.
What was I thinking????


11 posted on 11/25/2004 9:42:26 AM PST by MarMema
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"Gleb Pavlovsky, said in a Wednesday evening news broadcast on Russia’s RTR television channel that Yushchenko’s campaign had been prepared by the same specialists who prepared similar campaigns in Serbia and Georgia). "

Another interesting tid bit.


12 posted on 11/25/2004 9:44:09 AM PST by FairOpinion (Happy Thanksgiving!)
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To: GSlob
Yushchenko’s electoral campaign has been developed within the Polish diaspora abroad and its ideological basis was prepared by former U.S. national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski and his two sons,”

However the second part is absolutely true and accurate. All you have to do is read up on Ziggy and his old books to see he long ago suggested westernization of Poland and then Ukraine to destroy Russia.

13 posted on 11/25/2004 9:44:26 AM PST by MarMema
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Yes, these ugly Poles want to conquer the world once again, but don't worry, Captain RasPutin will save everyone !
14 posted on 11/25/2004 9:48:33 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

Now you've got it! :-)


15 posted on 11/25/2004 9:57:01 AM PST by MarMema
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You see, yesterday I've came back from Ukraine after being there during last week as a OSCE mission member, observing the election.

After that experience, if now anyoe is trying to talk anything about "Polish conspiracy" in Ukraine - the only thing I can do is just laughing.
16 posted on 11/25/2004 9:58:30 AM PST by lizol
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To: MarMema
Poland never needed Westernization, for it has always been civilizationally Western and needed only de-Communization; Western Ukraine does not need that much (although it still needs a lot) in terms of Westernization; to westernise Eastern Ukraine nothing short of genocide and resettlement would suffice, and these are not in the cards. As to destroying Russia - why bother? They are nicely destroying themselves, if only walled off and left to stew in their own juices.
17 posted on 11/25/2004 9:59:57 AM PST by GSlob
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To: Atlantic Friend; THORE JAN SVEN; MadIvan; Michael81Dus; Marie007
ping!

Come and see how the Poles are taking the power in EU!
18 posted on 11/25/2004 10:09:36 AM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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To: Velveeta; Calpernia; TapTheSource

Ping


19 posted on 11/25/2004 10:15:38 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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To: Lukasz
First we must take Ukraine and Belarus, next Moscow, Berlin (old Slavic city) and Paris and then we would have to choose: China or US. However it may be difficult because Captain RasPutin knows our plan.
20 posted on 11/25/2004 10:23:08 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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