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**N. Korean Party Documents Smuggled to China Indicate Internal Worries/Problems** (View Samples)
R.E.N.K. From Smuggled N. Korean Communist Party Documents Highlighted (Samples) ^ | 21 November 2004 | R.E.N.K. (NGO group)

Posted on 11/22/2004 11:06:32 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo

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To: AmericanInTokyo

That's it..but the picture editor worked O/T to find the older one..a nice job..The Times story implies that it's CHia head himself who has ordered this "de-deification" ( BTW is that a word?) of himself..do you put any credence in that spin?


21 posted on 11/22/2004 11:39:43 AM PST by ken5050
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I like the part that says "Partial translation to (as) follow(s)-- assistance requested from other Freepers..."

North Korean Freeper requests assistance:)


22 posted on 11/22/2004 11:44:38 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

Thanks!


23 posted on 11/22/2004 11:50:10 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: ken5050
I believe it was a command from Kim Jong-il himself...kind of like when you have to go down into your basement and install a pressure regulator valve on your heating/water tank, when it gets passed 80-90/psi sustained pressure.

If it were a coup d'etat, or military move against him, there would have been many more indicators out there, but humint and elint. As such, just the reports of (some) of the portraits coming down. Chia Head, IMHO here only, senses the buildup of triangular pressure: from below (the Korean People), from outside (from China and NGOs getting people into his border areas and causing trouble) and from above (Uncle Sam and Uncle George's Magical Traveling MOAB Show).

24 posted on 11/22/2004 11:54:54 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

NK is unstable, and NOT sustainable. It's a question of time, and whether it's a violent takedown, or a quiet one like that which marked the end of the USSR.. ANY sign of weakness by the regime can only encourage that process..


25 posted on 11/22/2004 11:58:13 AM PST by ken5050
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Trust me on this one. NK could be on the brink of an overthrow and we would have no idea. Even with defectors, it is the most buttoned down joint in the world. It could happen tomorrow or it might not happen for years.


26 posted on 11/22/2004 12:59:04 PM PST by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: usafsk

Well, with the Clinton disembowlment of our intelligence services, I could agree with you that we would have some blind spots vis a vis DPRK, because we have not had enough risk-takers send in people that should be in there on the ground. I do give the Chia Head at least another year (not that I wish for it too take that long, though).


27 posted on 11/22/2004 1:42:31 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: All
I've translated the title on the first page:

"TO SERVE MAN"

Need help with the rest...

28 posted on 11/22/2004 1:51:52 PM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Bump!


29 posted on 11/22/2004 1:56:50 PM PST by PilloryHillary (Thank God that President Bush is in the White House for 4 more years!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

It's all greek to me...


30 posted on 11/22/2004 1:57:15 PM PST by nuffsenuff
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To: AmericanInTokyo

placeholding bump


31 posted on 11/22/2004 1:59:04 PM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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To: nuffsenuff

#18


32 posted on 11/22/2004 1:59:27 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I'll take 1 good "LET'S ROLL!" over 1,000 meaningless & vulgar "ALLAH AHKBAR"'s, any day!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Damn... I should read the whole thread before posting.

There's always next time.


33 posted on 11/22/2004 2:03:20 PM PST by nuffsenuff
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To: AmericanInTokyo

"Sir, I confirm the coordinates of North Korea, but I can't confirm the existance of North Korea!"


34 posted on 11/22/2004 2:21:28 PM PST by anymouse
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To: anymouse

I think North Korea is in economic collaspe. They have to many mouths to feed, and no way to feed them. This is the same way Russia went, except NK is more isolationist and is going down faster.


35 posted on 11/22/2004 3:21:08 PM PST by BladeLWS
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To: AmericanInTokyo

How do we know these aren't forgeries created by Dan Rather?


36 posted on 11/22/2004 3:21:32 PM PST by MHak
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Re #1

According to this document, Christian religious materials are also getting into N. Korea. Apparently they made N. Koreans worried as much as S. Korean dramas and movies did.

37 posted on 11/22/2004 3:36:49 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I was watching this country long before Clinton and we knew nothing then. This is not a place where you can send someone in. The ROK rarely gets anything other than defector info. Some nuts are just not meant to cracked. I hope Kim goes down, but he's always been underestimated by the ROK and US.


38 posted on 11/22/2004 3:38:54 PM PST by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: Mannaggia l'America
"TO SERVE MAN"

HA! HA! ...LOL! :))

39 posted on 11/22/2004 4:10:06 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: RockinRight
I remember in the first Presidential debate when Kerry said he would immediatly start up bi-lateral talks with NK, the President immediately responded, NO, That would be wrong.

IMO Kerry was very close to blowing out of the water a strategy that was in the works.

40 posted on 11/22/2004 4:17:07 PM PST by Semper Paratus (Michael)
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