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GOP tosses ethics rule so DeLay can keep post
SFGate.com ^ | November 18, 2004 | Edward Epstein

Posted on 11/18/2004 5:03:34 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

Washington -- House Republicans adopted a rule change Wednesday that would allow their powerful majority leader, Rep. Tom DeLay of Texas, to keep his post if he is indicted on state corruption charges stemming from a fund-raising scandal that has already involved three of his associates.

Democrats led by Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco -- who was unanimously re-elected to her post Wednesday -- assailed the Republican action as hypocritical and arrogant.

The Republicans made the change after debating it for hours in a closed- door session Wednesday morning. Members said several GOP lawmakers objected to the change.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: delay; earle; gop; republicans; ruleschange; tomdelay
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The unprincipled exercise of power often leads to unforeseen (and unfortunate) consequences. Is saving Tom DeLay's ass worth this compromise of principle?
1 posted on 11/18/2004 5:03:34 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored; Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; timpad; KangarooJacqui; The Scourge of Yazid; ...

Is posting this over and over an obsession? He has not been convicted.


2 posted on 11/18/2004 5:07:00 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Make everyday Veterans Day.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Of course it is. The rat scum must be countered and Defensive actions are necessary.

When they attack using ethics and goodness as the target it is mandatory to remove the deadly threat.


3 posted on 11/18/2004 5:08:59 AM PST by bert (Don't Panic.....)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

He hasn't even been indicted.

DeLay has always been a controversial figure, to say the least!


4 posted on 11/18/2004 5:09:28 AM PST by Tax-chick (The whole world has gone crazy. Their beebers are stuned and there's no turning back.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

As per Barone on Fox last night he said this Democrat prosecutor is "rotten". Apparently this prosecutor is known for trumping up unsubstantiated charges against GOP pols.


5 posted on 11/18/2004 5:09:29 AM PST by KenmcG414
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I searched on this article and didn't see that it had been posted.

And, yes, it's true that DeLay hasn't been convicted of anything (or even indicted). But that's not the point of this article. The point is, the House is changing ethics rules (in mid-stream) to shield DeLay in the event that he is indicted. That kind of stinks, don't you think?

6 posted on 11/18/2004 5:09:54 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: bert

Exactly.... remember the clinton defense" you can indict a ham sandwich" Ask Rush what happens when a demorat in the DA's office takes aim...he sure ain't ken starr I can tell you that. Big deal anyway, if convicted he'll be totally gone but this takes away the power of local demorat DAS to mess with national leaders.


7 posted on 11/18/2004 5:12:09 AM PST by cb
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I know. I am sick of seeing this.


8 posted on 11/18/2004 5:12:30 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Make everyday Veterans Day.)
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That kind of stinks, don't you think?

No, I don't. I think it indicates that they recognize that indictments can be a political tool, and that some other standard should be used to define "unethical."

9 posted on 11/18/2004 5:12:34 AM PST by Tax-chick (The whole world has gone crazy. Their beebers are stuned and there's no turning back.)
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You state, "The unprincipled exercise of power often leads to unforeseen (and unfortunate) consequences. Is saving Tom DeLay's ass worth this compromise of principle?"

When the Democrats have similar rules for their congressmen and bow to every conservative lawyer with a grudge, then we'll be interested in their opinion on this particular change in the rules. What a bunch of hypocrits! The Democrats were more than ready to use this rule to get their lawyers and judges lined up to remove every Republican Conservative in a position of power in Congress from their leadership roles.


10 posted on 11/18/2004 5:12:36 AM PST by onevoter
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To: snarks_when_bored

He is being protected until he is innocent or guilty. I don't have a problem with that at all.


11 posted on 11/18/2004 5:13:41 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Make everyday Veterans Day.)
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PS. If it PO's Pelosi, it must be good!


12 posted on 11/18/2004 5:14:17 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Make everyday Veterans Day.)
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The point is, the House is changing ethics rules (in mid-stream) to shield DeLay in the event that he is indicted. That kind of stinks, don't you think?

No, considering the Travis County DA Ronnie Earle conducts political witch hunts against Republicans, none of which ever pan out.

13 posted on 11/18/2004 5:15:52 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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The Republicans have the upper hand, for now. They've already started to spend like Emelda Marcos in a shoe store (as the Democrats always did). So now they're going to start strong-arming the rules, just like the Democrats used to do? I thought the Republicans wanted to do things right?


14 posted on 11/18/2004 5:16:16 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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The problem is, when both sides have scruples, you can have rules like this and everything is cool. When one side...ala the Dems...try to wrestle the rules to an unfair advantage, and the other team...the Repubs...won't do the same dirty tactics, because they have principles, you have to remove the hindrance.

It's about time we start doing stuff to lessen the Dems' ability to obfuscate proper legislation.


15 posted on 11/18/2004 5:18:03 AM PST by Sensei Ern
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The point is, the House is changing ethics rules (in mid-stream) to shield DeLay in the event that he is indicted. That kind of stinks, don't you think?

this is precisely what swings party control back and forth

Its rotten

16 posted on 11/18/2004 5:18:08 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I hate to bother King Prout, after his tragedy yesterday, but could this be a RKBA situation?


17 posted on 11/18/2004 5:18:32 AM PST by Tax-chick (The whole world has gone crazy. Their beebers are stuned and there's no turning back.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

My $.02. From what I understand, correct me if I’m wrong, they changed it so that a committee will determine if the charges are an orchestrated political attack to remove a leader. If so, they the leader stays (unless convicted). If not, the leader is out of there asap. Seems fair to me. Let’s also remember, when we hear the rats complain, that they have no such rule. This partisan prosecutor apparently has a reputation for these kind of attacks. I think you have to adjust to your enemies movements. When the enemy finds a weak spot, you have to react to it rather then just sitting back and watch them exploit it.


18 posted on 11/18/2004 5:18:36 AM PST by Craigon
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PS. If it PO's Pelosi, it must be good!

I'd agree, normally. But note that "several GOP lawmakers objected to the change". It's principle we're talking about here, not personalities.

19 posted on 11/18/2004 5:18:42 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: sinkspur

Any procedures available to remove this "DA gone wild?" He went after Sen. Kay Hutchinson and others. Seems to be a pattern here.


20 posted on 11/18/2004 5:19:22 AM PST by donozark (UMA PEMMARAJU HAS HER EYE(S) ON ME!)
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