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West Virginia conservatives forming third party
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | November 15, 2004 | VICKI SMITH -- Associated Press Writer

Posted on 11/15/2004 12:13:23 PM PST by Willie Green

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To: ClintonBeGone

No...I don't want the U.S. intervening and forcing Israel to talk to and make peace with Arafats. Like I said...I haven't known any of those guys to be Pat Buchanans.


61 posted on 11/15/2004 2:15:37 PM PST by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: Willie Green
Good news. I thought the CP was already organized in West V? This is nice to know after the good news from Montana:

http://www.constitutionparty.com/news_print.php?aid=132

62 posted on 11/15/2004 2:18:38 PM PST by Scholastic
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To: MissAmericanPie
"Every American is entitled to have their grievances addressed and evaluated for merit..."

Yes, "merit" would be the key. You constant whining about the President and the GOP on any and all issues has established the "merit" of your perpetual whining.

63 posted on 11/15/2004 2:18:48 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: 70times7
You are generally correct with regard to the Christian beliefs of the vast majority of the signers of the Declaration of Independence and the framers of the Constitution. However, the evidence that Jefferson and for that matter, Franklin and John Adams, were not orthodox Christians is abundant in their writings. None of these men believed in the Trinity, the miraculous events in the Bible, nor in the Substitutionary Atonement of Jesus Christ.

However, it is also incorrect to assume that these Deists and Unitarians were 18th Century postmodernists or Gramscian Marxists. Some Unitarians held to standards of morality that approximated those of orthodox Christianity. Others believed, as do Christians, in the intervention of God in the affairs of men. Julia Ward Howe, tha author of "The Battle Hymn of the Republic," held to this position. Some prominent political conservatives in past eras were Unitarians. President William Howard Taft, perhaps the most conservative man to occupy the Oval Office in the last century, was a Unitarian. His son, Robert Taft, "Mr. Republican" of the 1940s and 1950s, was also a Unitarian. Robert Welch, founder of the John Birch Society, was a Unitarian, as was T.S. Eliot, the conservative British essayist. The political opinions of such 19th Century Unitarians as Ralph Waldo Emerson and Walt Whitman were classical liberal.

Unfortunately, what was true of the Unitarians of the 18th, 19th, and early 20th Centuries is not true today. Most of them are well on the left politically.

64 posted on 11/15/2004 2:20:02 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: MissAmericanPie

Those things are not the fault of having a two-party system...they are because of the agenda of certain of those in the two parties. There is a difference.


65 posted on 11/15/2004 2:20:08 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: MissAmericanPie

LOL! BUMP!


66 posted on 11/15/2004 2:21:24 PM PST by Scholastic
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
No...I don't want the U.S. intervening and forcing Israel to talk to and make peace with Arafats.

Israel is a mature country and has excellent diplomats. I've never heard her complain that we're forcing her to do anything. I think this is a disingenuous point to make.

67 posted on 11/15/2004 2:21:55 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Willie Green

" ... rejects U.S. participation in international trade, environmental and political organizations, including the United Nations."

Another Buchanan party - isolationists who have no perspective on reality concerning these issues. You can't be an ostrich and put your head in the sand.


68 posted on 11/15/2004 2:24:00 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Netizen
No. Islamofacists want them destroyed and that is a far cry from intervention or isolationism. Sounds more like some people are trying to malign the CP. jmo

Well, islamofacists also seek to prevent the US from aiding democracy in the middle east. Same platform as the constitutionalists. It's sort of like saying you're pro-life, but rationing oxygen.

69 posted on 11/15/2004 2:25:40 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

You're absolutely right...once the liberals have dispatched, then, and only then, should the Repubs be challenged from the right.


70 posted on 11/15/2004 2:27:05 PM PST by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: CWOJackson

And your rubber stamp of every candidate, program, and agenda will not solve a thing. Some of us are not given over to hero worship and expect politicians to pony up on their campaign promises.


71 posted on 11/15/2004 2:27:35 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Wallace T.

Well said. Thanks.


72 posted on 11/15/2004 2:28:45 PM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: EternalVigilance

I don't really see the difference when those with agendas in each party are enacting them against the best interests of the American citizen. That's why I say their feet need to be held to the fire on important issues.

The nation is not going to move right without an interested and active right wing.


73 posted on 11/15/2004 2:29:42 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
"And your rubber stamp of every candidate, program, and agenda will not solve a thing."

LOL! Yes, working within the political system to effect change would be considered rubber stamping from some who has consistently sat on the outside whining about anything and everything the President does.

"Some of us are not given over to hero worship and expect politicians to pony up on their campaign promises."

I guess this means you didn't buy the latest version of pat buchanan's same old book. I don't blame you, no one else has either.

74 posted on 11/15/2004 2:30:25 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Willie Green

Worst possible timing. It was a third party candidate named Perot that helped elect an unheard of Governor from Arkansas named Clinton. Do we want to do this in 08 and help elect Hillary??? Not this Republican. Heck, she'd help FUND a third party so her 45% firm base would lead her to victory.


75 posted on 11/15/2004 2:30:55 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: MissAmericanPie

Parties are simply vehicles.

It's who is driving and where that counts.


76 posted on 11/15/2004 2:31:30 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Willie Green

I voted for Peroutka. He got more votes than the Greens!


77 posted on 11/15/2004 2:34:59 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: MissAmericanPie

Have they told us not to discuss this until after the 08 election yet?


78 posted on 11/15/2004 2:35:15 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
"Worst possible timing."

That depends on your agenda. It appears the GOP is just now starting to make inroads in West Virginia. Now who would want to peel votes away from them?

79 posted on 11/15/2004 2:36:43 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

As much as I like Constitution Party ideals, they make the Libertarian Party powerful.

They will have zero impact. Don't worry.


80 posted on 11/15/2004 2:39:28 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the...feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse." --J.S. Mill)
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