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1 posted on 11/15/2004 9:47:06 AM PST by crushelits
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To: crushelits

I can attest to the importance of armored Humvees first-hand. Had my husband not been in an armored Humvee the day an IED exploded under his vehicle, I would be a widow right now.

The old Humvees, most of which already survived the first Gulf War, should have been replaced a long time ago.


2 posted on 11/15/2004 9:56:54 AM PST by AQGeiger (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: Mrs Zip; BOBWADE

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3 posted on 11/15/2004 9:59:39 AM PST by zip ((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans))
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To: crushelits

We need uparmored Humvees, and we need armored HEMMTS for fuel and cargo deliveries. The only other option is to assign a section of Bradleys or tanks to each CSS element to provide security. You used to be able to do that when you had four maneuver companies in a battalion, but when the Army switched to only 3, it got near impossible.


4 posted on 11/15/2004 10:03:02 AM PST by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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To: crushelits

There are 25,000,000 enemies coming at us one at a time.


6 posted on 11/15/2004 10:12:39 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: crushelits

The HMMWV was never intended to carry armor. Stop trying to make it something it isn't. Instead, look to inexpensive armored cars as an alternative, such as the South African Ratel 20 or similar (or the Alabama Slammer).

The HMMWV was always intended as a heavier (and more stable) Jeep.


7 posted on 11/15/2004 10:13:33 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: crushelits
"Commanders plead for armor"

With a title like this that hints that requests from our troops in Iraq are being routinely ignored by the Pentagon, it sounds like the headline writer was recycled from the NYSlimes or Washington Compost.

8 posted on 11/15/2004 10:19:09 AM PST by CedarDave (Celebrate November 2, 2004 -- May it always be known as Vietnam Veterans Victory Day!)
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To: crushelits

Why do newspapers insist on using alarmist headlines like this. It's stupid. "Requesting" and "pleading" imply two different things, with the latter sounding more desperate. Maybe that's the intention.


9 posted on 11/15/2004 10:19:58 AM PST by Trippin
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To: crushelits

The sad thing is that the armour is available as I understand it. About 4000 upgraded M113's of various variants are sitting doing nothing. In fact some are in Kuwait just next door but when an American commander in Iraq requested them he was refused.


12 posted on 11/15/2004 10:58:11 AM PST by protest1
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To: crushelits

DHB Industries (symb. DHB) is up 14% today !


15 posted on 11/15/2004 11:34:44 AM PST by traumer
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To: crushelits
"Suddenly, a different ballgame," Mr. Brownlee said.

Never was a different ballgame, just a bunch of liberal designers trying to invent a kinder gentler form of war. Surprise, it didn't work, just like the gunny's said. Now they can reinvent the tank and congratulate themselves on how smart they are.

17 posted on 11/15/2004 12:08:04 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: crushelits

I was in the mountains (N.C.) on a road trip...we saw three new armored humvees....destined for Iraq. Its on the way.


18 posted on 11/15/2004 12:18:57 PM PST by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: crushelits

How does “request” become “plead”?


22 posted on 11/15/2004 12:31:11 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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