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One Muslim is worth 12 Christians
Open Doors UK ^ | 08/11/04 | Pakistan Christian Post

Posted on 11/08/2004 4:18:30 PM PST by miltonim

08/11/04 | IRAN – One Muslim is worth 12 Christians

De facto 'dhimmitude' persists in Muslim countries.

Today the concept of 'dhimmitude' is an historical phenomenon and does not exist as an official legal status in any Muslim state; yet much the same discrimination faces Christians today as it did centuries ago, especially in countries like Iran that have reimposed shariah law (Quranic jurisprudence).

For many Christians it is a de facto reality of living in a Muslim country that they are thought of and treated as second-class citizens. In virtually every Muslim-majority context around the world, Christians face social discrimination on a daily basis. They are faced with prejudice and social exclusion.

Examples include discrimination in employment, under-representation in politics, difficulty in obtaining permission to build churches and exclusion from the top jobs in the civil service or security forces.

But inquality before the law is perhaps the most injurious aspect of "dhimmitude".

Under shariah law, diyeh is the price of a man's life valued in livestock. In accordance with shariah, the family and relatives of a murder victim in Iran can choose to claim diyeh from the murderer, or pardon them, instead of allowing the execution to go ahead.

Equality elusive

In mid-April the conservative Guardian Council of Iran once again rejected a Parliamentary bill on equal diyeh, or blood-price, for non-Muslim Iranians. This effectively affirms that the life of a Muslim is worth more than that of a Christian (or other non-Muslim) in accordance with Islamic law (Shari'ah).

In the case of homicide, the diyeh for an adult Muslim male in Iran is valued at 100 camels or 200 cows or 1000 sheep (in accordance with shariah), which is each year set at a certain monetary value by the Judiciary, now at 180 million rials. However, under shariah, the compensation for a non-Muslim man is usually set at a fraction of this value, and for a Muslim woman compensation is similarly set at half that of a Muslim man.

In Iran, a non-Muslim man is worth only one-twelfth of that paid for a Muslim man.

In September 2002 an Iranian court set a significant new precedent when it granted the family of a murdered Christian the same compensation as that of a Muslim.

In January 2003 the reformist Iranian Parliament submitted a bill that makes the diyeh value on the lives of Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians (Iran's recognised religious minorities) equal to that of Muslim men, according to the BBC.

The draft law therefore clearly contradicts traditional shariah and, according to one Persian-language newspaper, Jomhouri-ye-Eslami, this is why the Guardian Council rejected the bill.

(Under Iran's constitution all new legislation must be approved by the cleric-based conservative Guardian Council).

The IRNA, Iran's official news agency, reports that the final decision as to whether the bill will be scrapped will be determined by the country's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dhimmitude; muslims; nonmuslims

1 posted on 11/08/2004 4:18:31 PM PST by miltonim
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Thank God that Bush won. Otherwise we'd be at the mercy of the Dhimmicrats.


2 posted on 11/08/2004 4:19:53 PM PST by Prime Choice (Hey-hey! Ho-ho! Arlen Specter's gotta go!)
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To: miltonim

Kind of like counting slaves in order to establish votes.... every eight slaves equalled one whitey? who is the racist?


3 posted on 11/08/2004 4:22:12 PM PST by pipecorp ("never know where you're going till you get there." the philosopher Insectus Harem)
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To: miltonim

Apparently this ratio does not hold in combat.


4 posted on 11/08/2004 4:22:48 PM PST by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: Asclepius

LOL

What's the MOAB/muslim ratio??


5 posted on 11/08/2004 4:27:47 PM PST by notfornothing
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To: miltonim

This is sick.


6 posted on 11/08/2004 4:28:00 PM PST by MeekMom (When are the Hollyweirds moving to Canada/France?)
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To: miltonim

I am personally issuing a Fatwa that practicing Christians are each worth 1,000 Iranian Shiite Muslims. Further, non-Christian lesbian, hedonist, atheists are worth 10,000 Iranian Muslim Clerics.


7 posted on 11/08/2004 4:28:57 PM PST by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM, they can hate us all they want.)
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To: PeterFinn

Now, now - You know the rules...

You're supposed to specify how many camels, cows or sheep you can substitute.


8 posted on 11/08/2004 4:31:49 PM PST by notfornothing
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To: miltonim

Does that mean we're only eligble for 6 virgins?


9 posted on 11/08/2004 4:32:30 PM PST by StoneFury (The only thing hippies understand is the fist)
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To: miltonim

If they really believed such garbage, why do they always demand that Israel return hundreds of murdering palestinans in exchange for a few captured Israelis?


10 posted on 11/08/2004 4:35:03 PM PST by Trepz
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To: miltonim

I wonder how much livestock a woman, muslim or not, is worth? I doubt very much :(


11 posted on 11/08/2004 4:36:22 PM PST by sassbox
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To: miltonim

Thomas Jefferson/Declaration of Independence:

"We hold these truths to be self evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"

The Muslim world has not yet caught up to understand things that were deemed "self evident" to leaders in this country back in the 1700's . . . (although it took many more decades before that was more broadly understood here as being applicable to slaves . . . and wasn't codified as such into the Civil Rights Act until the 1960's.)

The conflict the West faces vis-a-vis much of the Muslim world is, at this level, still basic and philosophical and not likely to change quickly . . .

An example illustrating the slowness of change comes from the Old Testament: it took the Israelites 40 years of forced wandering/exile in the desert - until the older generation had died off - before they were ready to abandon the erroneous traditions they had picked up while slaves under Egyptian rule.

In other words - we probably shouldn't freak out or be too surprised that Iraq isn't transformed so soon after Sadaam crawled into a hole . . .


12 posted on 11/08/2004 4:36:30 PM PST by JustTheTruth
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To: StoneFury
Does that mean we're only eligble for 6 virgins?

NOT if you have a wife like mine! My virgin count is way, way down there ...

SFS

13 posted on 11/08/2004 5:08:54 PM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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Muhammad-inspired persecution of Christians, Jews and all non-Muslims continues...
14 posted on 11/09/2004 1:50:46 AM PST by miltonim (Fight those who do not believe in Allah. - Koran, Surah IX: 29)
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