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A better way to elect a president Chicago Tribune Editorial
Chicago Tribune ^ | November 7, 2004 | Chicago Tribune

Posted on 11/07/2004 8:24:48 AM PST by redfish53

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To: redfish53
If the Electoral College was abolished, all a politician would need to do is win large urban areas.

All a politician would have to do to win large urban areas is to make promises ($$$) to them while campaigning.

Don't think we don't know what this is all about, you Commie bastard, liberal elitists.

41 posted on 11/07/2004 8:44:55 AM PST by airborne (Death Before Dishonor)
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To: redfish53

No, thank you. The Electoral College prevents the urban liberals from ruling those of us in the heartland. I works just fine for me.


42 posted on 11/07/2004 8:45:08 AM PST by goldfinch
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To: cake_crumb
Well said and thank God our Founding Father's had enough sense to require 2/3rds of the states to change the Constitution!!
43 posted on 11/07/2004 8:45:14 AM PST by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: learner

Laura Bush said it correctly on Larry (Death) King live, I paraphase "You have to go to every state in the Union to campaign". Every state in the Union matters. We are the United States of America not the United Peoples of Amerika.


44 posted on 11/07/2004 8:47:18 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: VRWCTexan

This only proves that the founding fathers were geniuses and had the forethought to prevent MOB rule...


45 posted on 11/07/2004 8:48:31 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: redfish53

>It/s an exception that may have made sense 215 years ago when the Constitution was ratified, but it's one that has outlived time<


The Chicago Tribune: That may be your opinion, cage liner, but it's not mine. It's not broken, so stop messing with it! (What a bunch of spoilsports!)


46 posted on 11/07/2004 8:48:38 AM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge - our fight has just begun)
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To: redfish53

And if there was direct election this time, there would be no talk about robbed elections...Bush was a very clear winner in the popular vote.....But mostly I think the electoral college does keep things more equitable...


47 posted on 11/07/2004 8:49:21 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: redfish53
DUs choose to ignore that powers NOT expressly granted to the Federal gov. are RESERVED to the STATEs - our Founding Fathers were smart enough to fear having too strong of a federal government
48 posted on 11/07/2004 8:49:28 AM PST by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: Iscool
I'd like to think each State is still a sovereign State whereby each State has a vote...Unfortunately, in the current scheme of thing in the New World Order and our race to Globalism, the United States is perceived to be one State...A nation State...Just like the EU is now one State...

the united states may be perceived as one state, but it is an assembly of 50. our problem is that we have some states controlling things that should be uniform across all 50 states (e.g. EPA and Clean Air Act that is amended by 17 states with their own version, dictating many different blends of gasoline -- driving up its cost) and some things that should be delegated back to the states. EU is not a nation. it is true that they have a common set of laws, but instead of complying to the laws, the member countries of the EU state are spending time justifying how their current policies fit the EU template. they are actually hamstringing themselves with a three tier level of government.

49 posted on 11/07/2004 8:49:33 AM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: redfish53
"It's an exception that may have made sense 215 years ago, when the Constitution was ratified, but it's one that has outlived its time...."

Sorry chumps. We ain't giving up our electoral votes. It was part of the bargain to get us to join in the first place. Unless mebbee Illinois would like to offer us a trade. We'll give you our two extra electoral votes, you give us one of your Senate seats...

50 posted on 11/07/2004 8:49:58 AM PST by ImpeachandRemove (four more years of dubya, then eight more years of Jeb:))
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To: Keith

Yeah, and W won by 4 million votes in the popular vote, too!

Using that logic, should W be able to run again in 2008??


51 posted on 11/07/2004 8:51:54 AM PST by RockinRight (Bush's rallies look like World Series games. Kerry's rallies look like Little League games.)
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How fitting that a Chicago paper would endorse MOB RULE.


52 posted on 11/07/2004 8:52:19 AM PST by onyx (John "F" Kerry is now the final casualty of the Vietnam War!)
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To: MissAmericanPie

They have already begun by teaching our public school children that the Electoral College is bad and (the horror) "unfair." We need to make certain we let younger generations know why it is in place.


53 posted on 11/07/2004 8:54:12 AM PST by Libertina (We praise You Lord, You have granted America a Christian leader!)
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To: Bigh4u2

The ONLY way I'd support changing allocation of electoral votes would be to do it the way Maine does, i.e., 2 votes for the statewide winner, and the rest allocated by whoever won each congressional district. This would help voters in Red areas of states like PA, IL, and NY have their voices heard.


54 posted on 11/07/2004 8:54:24 AM PST by RockinRight (Bush's rallies look like World Series games. Kerry's rallies look like Little League games.)
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To: redfish53
The Chicago Tribune is either stupid or evil.

The United States electes the President and Vice-President. It consists of The People and The States. And it does so by both coming together in the Electoral College.

The Electoral College is the sublime culmination of the "Great Compromise" of the Constitutional Convention with gave us our two-chambered federal legislative branch. Those two chambers respectively represented, guess what, "The People" and "The States".

That "Great Compromise" has prevented this country from sliding from the tyranny of the masses, democracy, to just plain tyranny. But the elitists want to dismantle it.

Many years ago they perverted the Senate by subjecting its members to direct election by the "demos" instead of election by the state. The Senate argurably no longer represents "The States".

Now, every presidential election cycle, these same eletists call to eliminate "The States" from the process of electing our President and Vice-President.

Then, the mob would elect the President and Vice-President. And we would move one step away from a Republic and one step closer to a Democracy. We would move one step closer to the tyranny of the masses.

And we know where the masses live. We know who controls them. They are in the blue states.

Yes. The Chicago Tribune is both evil and stupid. Evil to believe its proposal. And stupid to believe we do not see through it.

Time for the Old Media to die.

55 posted on 11/07/2004 8:54:45 AM PST by DakotaGator (God Save the Republic!)
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To: redfish53

Just Proves how lazy the Dems are, they just want to fly into the big cities whip up support and leave, forget about the rest of the country and the people who live there.


56 posted on 11/07/2004 9:00:06 AM PST by KingNo155
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To: redfish53

I Think we should have a one state, one vote policy. However that state's majority of voters vote, that's how that state's one vote applies.


57 posted on 11/07/2004 9:28:46 AM PST by Real Cynic No More ( Kerry was the Hanoi candidate - now proven!)
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To: DakotaGator

I agree totally. When they changed the election of senators much of the rural areas [except in states that are mostly rural] lost any real voice in their government except for their representative. For the most part their senators do not speak for them, they speak and act for the urban areas which are the areas where they get the majority of their money to get re-elected.


58 posted on 11/07/2004 9:52:32 AM PST by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences ... you might become a conservative)
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To: Ruth C

Texas seems to work just fine


59 posted on 11/07/2004 10:54:53 AM PST by redfish53
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To: redfish53
The Electoral College works as designed. It kept the more populous states from overpowering the less populous.
60 posted on 11/07/2004 10:56:47 AM PST by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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