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CIA IS OUT TO DESTROY OUR PRESIDENT
To The Point ^ | 10/29/2004 | Dr. Jack Wheeler

Posted on 10/31/2004 12:45:51 PM PST by coffee260

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To: Cicero

Maybe Newt Gingrich would be a good choice. He was on a panel that did some investigative work or some type of study concerning the State Dept about a year ago or so.

One thing for sure he knows where all of the Clinton Commies are hiding and how to get rid of them or where to put them so we can watch them so they cannot do America any harm.


21 posted on 10/31/2004 12:59:29 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: coffee260

I don't know if Jack Wheeler is legitimate.

I do know Laurie Milroy has said that the CIA and State are out to get Bush. I believe her.

There are some pretty sick tickets in DC-Land.


22 posted on 10/31/2004 12:59:37 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: Cicero

The State Department needed to take a long shower after HalfBright left it but it failed to do so. And while I admire and honor Colin Powell, I just don't think he had it in him to clean this particular snake pit out.


23 posted on 10/31/2004 1:00:01 PM PST by daybreakcoming ("The American press is all about lies! All they tell is lies, lies and more lies!",,,,,,Baghdad Bob)
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To: coffee260

How credible is the info on this one? Wheeler's name and Michael Ledeen's affiliation with that site (read: spook fingerprints all over it) suggest that the info could have some valid sources. Has this been reported elsewhere though?


24 posted on 10/31/2004 1:00:45 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: Endeavor
I don't know if Jack Wheeler is legitimate.

I'd like to know more on his information sources. I just browsed his site and Michael Ledeen's stuff is all over it. Ledeen's got spook connections all over the place, but I'd still like to see more specifics.

25 posted on 10/31/2004 1:03:43 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist

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26 posted on 10/31/2004 1:04:50 PM PST by coffee260
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To: Mitchell

Ping


27 posted on 10/31/2004 1:04:52 PM PST by Allan
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To: coffee260

Thanks...

I was aware of anti-Bush factions in the CIA.

It appears Goss means business. Excellent news.


28 posted on 10/31/2004 1:06:29 PM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: coffee260

Wish they'd held this a few days. Those "rogue's" could do major damage in two or three days.


29 posted on 10/31/2004 1:07:55 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: daybreakcoming

I was at an awards banquet this weekend where a former Ambassador was honored. He had worked under both Carter and Reagan - in other words, he was a State Dept careerist. The last line of introduction for him was this: "... and he still believes that ANY antagonistic situation can ALWAYS be worked out by talking." Can you believe that someone could say that after September 11th?

Also, about two years ago, I met with a mid-level State Dept guy in the Near East division. As we walked the halls of State to his office, I said to him, "So, I guess it is hard to change policy direction when a new administration takes over" and he said, "Oh, no, we do our best NOT to change policy just because an administration changes." I just kinda looked at him with a mixture of scorn and utter shock.

It's amazing how infested State is with Leftists who are just plain damned clueless.


30 posted on 10/31/2004 1:09:02 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: coffee260

Wow! This is enlightening....Thanks for sharing with us.


31 posted on 10/31/2004 1:10:13 PM PST by IndianPrincessOK (Native American pleading for Truth!)
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To: Endeavor

Even the Fox roundtable (including Mort) said recently that half the CIA (sounded large to me, who was aware there was a clear anti Bush administration cabal) were out to get Bush.

They said that the administration had to be very careful in public pronouncements because the slightest thing this rogue group can twist and manipulate into "Bush lied!", they will find something to leak to contradict the Bush administration. At the time that memo had been leaked about the administration being "warned" (media/CIA rogue group spin for one line in a memo) about insurgents in Iraq.


32 posted on 10/31/2004 1:11:30 PM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: coffee260
How sad!
Gone are the days when a bureaucrat served his Country first. Now partisanship is affecting our security apparatus? That's very bad. Get rid of the hacks and get some principled folks in there.
33 posted on 10/31/2004 1:12:11 PM PST by ThirstyMan
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To: coffee260
I've often wondered about those very very very book smart people who've perverted their intelligence with pride. Some intel folks have played the world like a video game for so long that the public is catching onto how dirty wars are sold to presidencies for their own political agendas. The thought of a "Transparent Society" must horrify them since it will reveal them and their present actions in its entirety. The more I examine how vulnerable very very very book smart people are to such a fall to pride and self-worship, the easier it is for me to understand why such despicable rouges are very much like the most intelligent creature ever created: satan.

Thus, I'm no longer surprised that intel agencies (including the CIA) would harbor such sinister intellects bend on self-serving ideologies. The end result that I've witness by such a self-pitying crowd is that many prefer to rack their bodies with drugs (booze) and unrestrained sexual activity...except that they're no James Bond.
34 posted on 10/31/2004 1:12:19 PM PST by SaltyJoe (They believe that Kerry will "look the other way" for their illegal actions?)
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To: SAJ
OK, Goss, clean 'em out.

IT IS 4 YEARS LATE FOR THIS!

35 posted on 10/31/2004 1:14:18 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: arthurus

So he should just forget it?

Please, get a grip.


36 posted on 10/31/2004 1:15:16 PM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: GOPcapitalist

Ledeen is legitimate. I can't remember why I have a question on Wheeler - something came up re: him recently but I'm infect with CRS and am therefore, at a loss.


37 posted on 10/31/2004 1:16:04 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: coffee260
This is all a revelation to me. I had no idea this was going on at the CIA - I assumed, like most people would assume, that the CIA is a button down, no-nonsense organization, which would point to pro-defense Republican policies.

The scary thing about this is they have the intelligence AND the media to leak it to. It appears there is little to counter this besides extremely strategic thinking, like the NY Times leak to counter the CBS leak (over Al QaQaagate)...

38 posted on 10/31/2004 1:17:15 PM PST by Danno (the Dems have poop in their pants...)
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To: coffee260

Do you have any insight into the Plame business? The angle I seek is the way the rogue group tried to perpetrate the "Bush lied" about Iraq seeking yellowcake in Niger business. I am not concerned about who "leaked" her "name".


39 posted on 10/31/2004 1:18:02 PM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Endeavor

Read This!

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=58220


40 posted on 10/31/2004 1:18:02 PM PST by JessieHelmsJr
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