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Bin Laden Videotape & Bin Laden spotted by Indian AF
Debka ^ | 10/31/04 16th of Cheshvan, 5765 | Staff

Posted on 10/30/2004 5:20:56 PM PDT by Perdogg

DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources report Indian Air Force sighted bin Laden a few days ago on Tibet-Laddakh region close to the North-Eastern corner of Pakistan bordering India and China. Indian forces went on red alert

US Homeland Security secretary Ridge announces terror alert will not be raised but extra vigilance advised – in wake of Bin Laden’s videotaped threat of new 9/11-style attacks

US intelligence analysts report al Jazeera aired only 5 minutes of 18-minute total length, which contained two additional references to Bush and family.

DEBKAfile Special Report

Osama bin Laden’s videotaped warning to the American people aired by al Jazeera Arabic TV Friday, October 29, was as lethal as any terrorist attack.

“Despite entering the fourth year after Sept. 11, Bush is still deceiving you and hiding the truth. Therefore, the reasons are still there to repeat what happened. Your security,” said the al Qaeda leader, “Is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands and it depends on your policy.”

Those words were crafted to drop a remote-controlled bomb on the US election 96 hours from the finish line. They were the al Qaeda leader’s first real admission that he was behind the 9/11 attacks, a reminder that three years later he was still at large and a warning that Americans were still at risk – all meant to connect in the American voter’s mind to the ongoing war in Iraq and the failure to turn up Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction.

Bin Laden hoped his words would slice into President George W. Bush’s slim lead and encompass his downfall. At the very least, he aimed to dominate the tone and direction of the US presidential election.

Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge tried to mute the damage by announcing that the national terrorist level would not be raised in the wake of the videotape although he did advise extra vigilance

Nothing on the tape released Friday gave away information on the speaker’s whereabouts. Although it was dropped in Islamabad a few hours earlier, at the gate of Al Jazeera’s Pakistan bureau chief, Pakistan was quick to deny the fugitive was hiding in that country. “He cannot be in the tribal areas because of the presence of so many troops,” said interior minister Aftab Khan Sherpao. In Afghanistan, the US military suggested he was somewhere near the Afghan-Pakistani border.

All the intelligence agencies involved in the hunt for the elusive bin Laden - American, Indian, Pakistani and Russian – are reported by DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources to have narrowed down his hiding places fairly closely. They are convinced that, after he gave orders for the tape’s release, he headed out to his winter hideout in the Himalayas or Little Pamir and will stay there until the spring thaw.

This is not the first time al Qaeda interfered in a Western election. On March 11, 2004, al Qaeda operatives carried out a series of bombings on Madrid trains that left 200 dead shortly before the vote. The pro-American Anzar government was defeated and the new administration hurriedly withdrew Spanish troops from Iraq.

Then came a surprising statement. Al Qaeda asserted in one of its taped publications that, rather than spill blood, it preferred to enter into dialogue with European nations - provided they met certain conditions such as disengaging from Washington’s policies.

No European government bought this attempt at manipulation. Our al Qaeda specialists predict that if Kerry is elected, its propagandists will try the same ploy on him too. When they are brushed off, the terrorists will go into action. But if Bush prevails, they will not bother with such delaying tactics before launching into anti-US violence.

The question of whether or not al Qaeda is still capable of carrying out a large-scale attack in America found no answer on the videotape. But bin Laden knows that whoever is elected to the White House on Tuesday, November 2, the new president will be bound to cut through all the political ifs and buts and seriously approach the daunting task of capturing and killing Osama bin Laden. It may come down to a race to catch him before his underlings carry out their orders to strike. The only way to hold their hand would be to make it known that their leader is caught or dead.

Bin Laden was actually spotted in the flesh just a few days ago - according to DEBKAfile’s counter terror sources. Between October 17 and October 19, an Indian air force reconnaissance plane picked him up in the Tibet-Laddakh region close to the North-Eastern corner of Pakistan bordering India and China. Additional surveillance aircraft were called in and identified the al Qaeda leader on the move with a 10-vehicle convoy of black Japanese minivans. Four of the vehicles turned up again on October 22 heading east towards the Chinese border. Our sources maintain that the rumored sightings of bin Laden on the Lingzi Thang Plain on the Tibetan border in June may have been true then but are now outdated. In any case, he was not at the time in Pakistani Waziristan or the Afghan-Pakistani border.

The agents hunting the al Qaeda leader are working on the premise that he has decided to wait out the winter months in one of two regions: Hunza province in the Northern Frontier tip of Indian Kashmir or Little Pamir, where fanatical Tajik tribes have never allowed any Kabul government - whether Taliban or led by Karzai - to secure a foothold. Little Pamir is wedged between Tajikistan

where Russian special forces taking part in the bin Laden dragnet are deployed and China.

Before launching the Sept.11 attacks, bin Laden and his deputy Ayman Zawahiri, prepared snug havens in the caverns that riddle the towering 5,000-8,000 mountain peaks.

In the 1970s, the Russians converted the Little Pamir cave warren into subterranean silos for nuclear missiles pointing towards China. But even the Russians found the cold and harsh conditions unendurable and by the mid-1980s the bases were abandoned.

Sunday, October 24, a senior FBI agent, briefed first in Pakistan, flew from Islamabad to New Delhi to meet Indian security bosses and examine the aerial shots of the bin Laden convoy.

Our intelligence sources report that, after the American agent studied the data and questioned the Indian intelligence officers who saw the terrorist chief leave his minivan several times, he relayed Washington’s request for the Indian government to put its security forces in the North Western region on red alert and round up troops for combing operations in the region before the snowfall.

New Delhi complied the next day and also stepped up its vigilance on the Kagil-Leh Highway and along the Tibetan border.

But before bin Laden disappeared in his mountain fastness, he not only had the videotape posted to al Jazeera, but left with his men precise instructions defining the political circumstances and timing for the next al Qaeda terrorist attack in the United States.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: binladen; debka; pakistan; sighting; southasia
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1 posted on 10/30/2004 5:20:57 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

It did enter my head that the tape might be cover for a move. Release the tape and focus attention on where everyone thinks he is, not where he's heading...


2 posted on 10/30/2004 5:23:52 PM PDT by HarryCaul
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To: Perdogg

November 1st suprize??


3 posted on 10/30/2004 5:26:22 PM PDT by BP2
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To: BP2

Let's hope so.


4 posted on 10/30/2004 5:27:19 PM PDT by Perdogg (Dubya - Right Man, Right Job, at the Right Time!)
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To: Perdogg
1) Do not post anything from debka

2) see above

5 posted on 10/30/2004 5:27:21 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: BP2
DEBKA!
6 posted on 10/30/2004 5:27:30 PM PDT by airborne (God answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is ,"No".)
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To: shield; LS

ping!


7 posted on 10/30/2004 5:27:39 PM PDT by Perdogg (Dubya - Right Man, Right Job, at the Right Time!)
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To: Perdogg
What the hell are the Indians flying, Fokker Eindeckers? Don't they have at least rudimentary armament? They should've carpeted the joint with every ounce of ordinance they were carrying, fer crying out loud.......


8 posted on 10/30/2004 5:29:11 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Taglines? Vikings don't need no steenkin' taglines..............)
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To: All

I'll make a deal! I promise never to post an article from Debka if no one post an article from any Left wing British Newspaper. Deal???


9 posted on 10/30/2004 5:29:31 PM PDT by Perdogg (Dubya - Right Man, Right Job, at the Right Time!)
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To: Perdogg

...Debka? ...better than the Buchananites' anti-defense, anti-American sites.


10 posted on 10/30/2004 5:30:10 PM PDT by familyop (Receive, adhere, listen, dissolve, entice and launch.)
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To: BP2
"November 1st suprize??"

More likely an October 30th Miscalculation. I suspect he thought, by having his people listen to Kerry, that the time was ripe for a Nudge, but I suspect that he has no concept of the real America, - mistook it for Spain, because (lack) of the quality of the people he has over here watching the situation.
11 posted on 10/30/2004 5:31:53 PM PDT by konaice
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To: Perdogg

...and no more from Rockwell, Buchanan or any Liberaltarians.


12 posted on 10/30/2004 5:31:58 PM PDT by familyop (Receive, adhere, listen, dissolve, entice and launch.)
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To: Perdogg

Don't you know that Debka is an anagram for BAKED news? :)


13 posted on 10/30/2004 5:32:16 PM PDT by Tealc (Mail me if you want on or off my Jaffa, Kree! ping list)
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To: Tealc

Like Hash brownies???


14 posted on 10/30/2004 5:32:54 PM PDT by Perdogg (Dubya - Right Man, Right Job, at the Right Time!)
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To: Viking2002
What the hell are the Indians flying, Fokker Eindeckers?

You need to read about the recent air exercise/dogfight between (I believe it was) Indian Mig-29s and U.S. (probably) F-15s or F-18s. IAF won hands down. US fighters were handicapped without use of AWACS but result was decidedly lopsided. Pukin Dog or someone will provide more accurate details. Not a force to be diminished.

15 posted on 10/30/2004 5:36:36 PM PDT by steve86
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To: Perdogg

Yes, with the latter serving a useful purpose. :)


16 posted on 10/30/2004 5:36:42 PM PDT by Tealc (Mail me if you want on or off my Jaffa, Kree! ping list)
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To: BearWash
OK, so they can fly a MiG. If the IAF is such a bunch of crack shots, then how come they didn't plink Osama's turban off his head, then blow his ass into it? Something about this report smells like the inside of a Mooslim's pajamas.......


17 posted on 10/30/2004 5:40:26 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Taglines? Vikings don't need no steenkin' taglines..............)
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To: Perdogg
Osama bin Laden’s videotaped warning to the American people aired by al Jazeera Arabic TV Friday, October 29, was as lethal as any terrorist attack.

No it wasn't. If bin Laden could launch an actual attack just before the election, he would. Instead, thanks to G.W. Bush, the best he can muster is this cheesey video tape.

18 posted on 10/30/2004 5:40:53 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: BearWash
SU-27 Flankers, top-of-the-line Russian hardware against our older F16s, NOT F-22s. No AWACS, (Like we'd ever go in without those!) AND the Indians had a 2-1 numerical advantage.

We do these things to help their political propaganda, and learn a few things about the SU-27s and their tactics.

19 posted on 10/30/2004 5:45:34 PM PDT by Henchster
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To: Perdogg

Screw Osama. He doesn't scare me. They made a stupid video tape because they know that their attempts to attack the U.S. are FAILING.


20 posted on 10/30/2004 5:48:26 PM PDT by BlindGuardian (Re-elect George W. Bush!)
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