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RV vote could affect South Dakota senate race
Minnesota Public Radio ^ | 10/29/2004 | Mark Steil

Posted on 10/29/2004 7:00:03 PM PDT by SoDak

A recent poll shows the South Dakota U.S. Senate race is a statistical dead heat. Republican John Thune wants to unseat Democrat Tom Daschle. In a race where it looks like every vote will count, Republicans have picked up support from an unexpected group: RV owners. People who live fulltime in recreational vehicles often have problems voting. South Dakota though is RV friendly. Several thousand RV'ers have registered to vote there.

Sioux Falls, South Dakota — Trays of absentee ballots fill the tables in a back room at the Minnehaha County courthouse in Sioux Falls. Auditor Sue Roust riffles through the envelopes of an especially interesting precinct.

"We have a thousand ballots already in this one precinct," says Roust. "And that's never happened before, that we've had anywhere near that number."

The precinct is on the west side of Sioux Falls. Most of the envelopes have the same return address.

"Almost all of the ballots as you look at them you'll see they have an address of 4609 West 12th Street. That is the Tower Campground," says Roust. "And that's what a lot of RV'ers put down as their residence address when they register to vote here."

It's all completely legal. RV'ers with an address can vote - even if they've never lived in the state. Roust says about 2000 RV'ers are registered in Minnehaha County. She bases that on a computer printout which shows voters claiming the same address. Almost 1000 list the Tower Campground. More than 300 claim a Comfort Inn motel as home. Other parts of South Dakota also have clusters. In Hanson County, population 3100, more than 800 RV'ers are registered. Most have never stayed in South Dakota for more than a few weeks. Robert Hillman is one example.

"We used to live in Missouri. And I had sold our home and we were traveling and living in the RV totally," says Hillman. "So I had nowhere to establish a residence as far as driver's license and living and voting and paying income tax and so on."

Hillman got a South Dakota driver's license and made the state his legal home. It's one of a handful of states where the nation's more than one million RV'ers can easily establish residency.

Mark Nemeth works for the Escapees RV Club in Livingston, Texas. That group sued to force local county officials in Texas to accept RV'ers as residents. Nemeth says out of date state voting laws are a big problem.

"Their voting statutes are written around the concept of a fixed residence somewhere within a county. And so it makes it a little more difficult sometimes for RV'ers who are traveling, who are upstanding citizens and who certainly have the right to vote, to be able to register to vote," says Nemeth.

In South Dakota about 70 percent of the RV'ers registered to vote have requested absentee ballots. That strong turnout is no surprise to Paul Eidsness. He owns Alternative Resources of Sioux Falls. The company helps RV'ers establish South Dakota residency. It also performs services for them, including mail forwarding. Eidsness says RV'ers initially are attracted by South Dakota's low taxes. He says once they become residents many take an interest in politics.

"There's a lot them that come in here and they really want to register to vote and they follow what's going on in the state of South Dakota," says Eidsness.

Some states have taken action to block RV'ers from voting. Nevada accepts them as residents, but only allows RV'ers to vote in the presidential race. The concern in Nevada is that RV'ers might sway local elections. In South Dakota, Minnehaha County Auditor Sue Roust is also concerned. She's a Democrat. She says RV voters tend to favor Republicans. She uses the Tower Campground precinct as an example.

"The voters who I consider to be the resident voters, there's a slight Democratic edge in registration. Whereas with the RV'ers, it's Republicans 46 percent, Democrats 27 percent," says Roust.

In most elections a few thousand RV votes would carry little weight or worry. Close races though have become almost the norm for South Dakota. A little over 500 votes separated the senate candidates in 2002. This year looks as close. If it's a cliffhanger, state residents may pay much more attention to the owners of recreational vehicles.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: thune
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It all helps. Go Thune, Go!!!
1 posted on 10/29/2004 7:00:04 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: SoDak

From Vacation: Clark, that's a might fine RV you've got there...


2 posted on 10/29/2004 7:03:15 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (DNC and John Kerry: Forgers R' Us)
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To: SoDak

Are folks who live in RVs Republican or Democrat?


3 posted on 10/29/2004 7:12:18 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: SoDak
When Tommy gets booted, I be "selebrating" BIG TIME. GO THUNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4 posted on 10/29/2004 7:16:00 PM PDT by Raffus (Thanks to all Veterans for their service to our Country.)
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To: SoDak

This article really surprises me. It's hard to believe there are so many snow birds. And for some reason it surprises me that most of them are Republican. Cool.


5 posted on 10/29/2004 7:24:03 PM PDT by dumpdaschle (I actually did vote for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: WoodstockCat
"From Vacation: "Clark, that's a might fine RV you've got there..." "


6 posted on 10/29/2004 7:33:43 PM PDT by hoot2
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To: Jim_Curtis
Let's see. An independent retired couple drives an RV, guzzles lots of gas. Pays the state $40 or so in taxes with every fill-up. Shops there. Pays sales taxes. Pays income taxes. Should not a resident for voting purposes.

A wino lives on the streets. Craps in the alleys. Panhandles. Abuses working people. Checks into the hospital on the taxpayers dime. Uses a flophouse for his voting address. And shows up faithfully on election day to claim his packs of smokes and pull the "D" lever-- maybe in multiple places around town. Not a problem.

Makes perfect sense, doesn't it? < / sarcasm >

7 posted on 10/29/2004 7:42:08 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Vigilanteman

Why didn't Bush go to SD for one visit endorsing Thune, and ripping Dasshole a new one?


8 posted on 10/29/2004 7:58:31 PM PDT by DAC22
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To: SoDak

Kindof silly....

why wouldn't they find a registration-friendly state that is a BATTLEGROUND?

Their votes don't mean much in SD, unless they have a particular interest in that senate race


9 posted on 10/29/2004 8:07:57 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: SoDak

It might not help Thune. If Dems were aware of this back door voting bonanza, they could have their guys getting RV addresses. They can register as GOP but vote Democrat. Eases suspicions that way. It's the kind of thing they might do. 1,000 extra votes? Twice as many as needed to put Johnson over the edge.


10 posted on 10/29/2004 8:11:11 PM PDT by jwalburg (Those buried included children still clutching toys)
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To: jwalburg

That occurred to me too. This story makes me nervous. The number of votes needed to swing the election in South Dakota is very small. Last time they did it with the Indian reservations.


11 posted on 10/29/2004 8:15:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

This will need to be remedied in the state legislature. But we will have to hope Thune's lead will overcome those. There won't be any of those trickling in late at least, after all the other precincts have reported.


12 posted on 10/29/2004 8:17:55 PM PDT by jwalburg (Those buried included children still clutching toys)
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To: dumpdaschle
You must not have ever lived in Florida.
LOL!
The entire state adjusts to snowbird migration in much the same way the rest of the nation adjusts to daylight savings time changes.
BTW, Florida has huge numbers of "legal residents" that are USA military members.
Hence the reason their votes were fought against and NOT COUNTED in 2000.
They also trend Republican.
13 posted on 10/29/2004 8:18:38 PM PDT by sarasmom (Why are liberals so afraid to admit in public that they are communists/socialists?)
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To: dumpdaschle

You must not have ever lived in Florida.
LOL!
The entire state adjusts to snowbird migration in much the same way the rest of the nation adjusts to daylight savings time changes.
BTW, Florida has huge numbers of "legal residents" that are USA military members.
Hence the reason their votes were fought against and NOT COUNTED in 2000.
They also trend Republican.


14 posted on 10/29/2004 8:19:12 PM PDT by sarasmom (Why are liberals so afraid to admit in public that they are communists/socialists?)
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To: FL_engineer

It isn't politics they're worried about, it's low taxes.


15 posted on 10/29/2004 8:19:29 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: jwalburg

No way, these are people who are after low taxes. these are folks who vote GOP, which is EXACTLY why the Dems haven't gone after them.


16 posted on 10/29/2004 8:20:55 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: SoDak

Sure hope you're right. Aberdeen News had a story about RV voting a couple months ago and I was cringing then at the voter fraud possibilities.


17 posted on 10/29/2004 8:25:21 PM PDT by jwalburg (Those buried included children still clutching toys)
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To: jwalburg

I think it would be pretty hard to do so on a significant level, though I could be wrong.


18 posted on 10/29/2004 8:29:49 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: SoDak

Yes, many more than a thousand would look absurd. It would be interesting to be there when the votes were opened and counted, to see if they are all for one candidate.


19 posted on 10/29/2004 8:35:09 PM PDT by jwalburg (Those buried included children still clutching toys)
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To: SoDak

I think at this point its a little to late to be registering new voter frauds for the democrats. They are going to work with what they currently have.


20 posted on 10/29/2004 8:55:40 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma (Please send and make checks payable to: Coburn for Senate P.O. Box 977 Muskogee, OK 74402)
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